Interesting list of gotchas, thanks for sharing! To my surprise ICE and reference models seem to play nicely. I have close to a thousand referenced pointclouds that are dependent on each others and so far it's stable. I don't think I could keep up with the complexity of the shots without a way to update all my setups simultaneously. All GetData and GetTopo nodes are open to change on each setup individually and the delta keeps track of that.
My only issue is the speed. With scenes taking up to an hour to save/load it's almost a deal breaker. I try my best to optimize but loading/offloading assets takes way too long and consumes memory more than it should. I can't wait to have something like ICE in a modern architecture software! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Mario Domingos <mdomingos.p...@gmail.com>wrote: > Great info Alan! Tks for that! > — > Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPhone > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Alan Fregtman > <alan.fregt...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> <shameless_plug> >> >> I have a good article on Delta hygiene with a script to clean a lot of >> common issues in my blog: >> http://darkvertex.com/wp/2010/02/21/clean-softimage-deltas/ >> >> </shameless_plug> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Vincent Fortin <vfor...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I think you hit the nail on the head there. Will do more testing. If I >>> can repro this should probably be logged as a bug. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Matt Lind <ml...@carbinestudios.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On occasion, yes, but usually when the offloaded model is a dependency >>>> of something else going on in the scene. Eg: the loaded scene content >>>> needs the offloaded model for something.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Matt**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Fortin >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:55 PM >>>> *To:* softimage >>>> *Subject:* Re: Offloaded references hangs Softimage**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Thanks Matt, that's good to know.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> To describe my problem more simply:**** >>>> >>>> Offloaded references hang Softimage. Loaded references don't. That >>>> doesn't make much sense does it?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Did you experience something similar?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Matt Lind <ml...@carbinestudios.com> >>>> wrote:**** >>>> >>>> You mean besides the large amount of data you’re trying to load into >>>> memory?**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Models have additional metadata which force additional validation >>>> checks and processing of deltas. You’re experiencing normal behavior. We >>>> have the same issues. **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> The best I can suggest is to keep your edits lean on the referenced >>>> models and remove any unnecessary crap such as construction history. Above >>>> all, don’t put lights in models. For some reason they bring Softimage to >>>> it’s knees.**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Matt**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Fortin >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:34 PM >>>> *To:* softimage >>>> *Subject:* Offloaded references hangs Softimage**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Hi list,**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> I have a scene with ~200 reference models offloaded via the scntoc.**** >>>> >>>> The scene opens relatively quick but as soon as I unroll the hierachy >>>> containing all the reference models (in the explorer), Softimage stops >>>> responding.**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> If I open the same scene without modifying the scntoc, the scene takes >>>> more than an hour to load but once it's open everything is fine.**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what could be causing this?**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Thanks!**** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Vincent**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>> >>> >> >
