Few people are as big a fan of Soft as I am. I've been using it since 1995, Soft 3D 3.0 and Soft is still all I use. You will get no argument from me about how great it is to work with. In my experience, it's very rare someone who has started using it after having experience with Maya or Max come away from it a little surprised at how much easier it is to be productive.
Positive, negative, my mood is irrelevant towards it. I don't know what action if anything would have a meaningful impact on what amounts to a business decision. We've all seen how it's been marketed, the proof is in what you see in front of you, not platitudes meanwhile ICE like modules (or at least last I heard) are in development for Maya. Along with BetaMax and Commodore Amiga, it's not the first time hype won over a good product. Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock. So when I hear one thing and see another, it's that saying that comes to mind. I'm just a lone freelancer, the only people on this list who have any pull are the CG supervisors, leads and studio owners who have the ability to decide where their dollars go. I would certainly love to be completely wrong and have to apologize, trust me. Sorry if I upset anyone with my comments... As I am writing this, I see Kris has managed to take the can of worms I opened and proceeded to throw them all over the room and set the place on fire. Have a great Holiday everyone. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Stephan Haitz <sha...@3d-agenten.de>wrote: > Thought about paying the subscription lately and ... I paid it to show > Autodesk that there are Softimage users... naive thinking, but ... > > So Merry Christmas and have a nice 2014. And many more years with Soft... > > > Absolutley! > > People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013.... And here > we are! > > Merry Christmas and Happy New* 2014 *to all of you! > > > > > > > 2013/12/20 Francisco Criado <malcriad...@gmail.com> > >> Amen! >> F. >> >> >> >> 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> >> >>> Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, >>> analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the >>> prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 >>> it has been an overwhelming round. >>> >>> Well said Adrian >>> >>> Jb >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger <cgo...@googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the >>> rants because they annoy me to no end. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer < >>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood >>>> of users and the future of our little group.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads >>>> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self >>>> here) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it >>>> was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement >>>> and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find >>>> out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for >>>> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech >>>> equivalent of Godwin's law! >>>> >>>> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other >>>> online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the >>>> whole, a nice place to hang out. >>>> >>>> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future >>>> of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the >>>> industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested >>>> interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning >>>> ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from >>>> the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application).... >>>> But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, >>>> but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by >>>> force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, >>>> it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will >>>> be the lack of users.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for >>>> it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than >>>> it's been in ages. >>>> >>>> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software >>>> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break >>>> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By >>>> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a >>>> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we >>>> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses >>>> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up >>>> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software >>>> (and new innovations and features) >>>> >>>> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, >>>> primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it >>>> is.... come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, >>>> etc, etc! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public >>>> space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it >>>> alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead >>>> fingers!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> a >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Adrian Wyer >>>> Fluid Pictures >>>> 75-77 Margaret St. >>>> London >>>> W1W 8SY >>>> ++44(0) 207 580 0829 >>>> >>>> >>>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com >>>> >>>> www.fluid-pictures.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. >>>> Company number:5657815 >>>> VAT number: 872 6893 71 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >