so the question is can Softimage play both host to an external engine, and
also be able to interpret subsequent data rom said engine through ICE. i
don't think render support would be a problem if the hair ends up being
strands, it wouldn't really matter that the guides aren't render supported,
we just need them for styling and maybe simulation.


On 15 February 2014 03:24, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote:

> well, fabric has already proven they can. i mean, integrate visualization
> tools into softimage but have the data be separated. as long as you have
> good support for your target renderer (ie. render time procedural) and good
> support for caching softimage is just a host.
>
> it is a question of, interest, time, and money... someone has to be
> interested in investing the time to make some (little) money.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you wanted to make it all within SI, but what if it was an external
>> engine, like yeti, or fabric ?
>>
>>
>> On 15 February 2014 02:19, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ya, if you want to make your own curve tools that might turn out
>>> better.. but ask eugen sares how this area is lacking too ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how about a system where you create and style guides before sending the
>>>> data to ICE ? melena has a create strands from curve node, it seems
>>>> doable...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 February 2014 02:13, Sebastien Sterling <
>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> :- (
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 February 2014 02:04, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i experimented with a custom tool, which would write ice data arrays
>>>>>> directly, so this could be for brushing existing strands, cutting 
>>>>>> strands,
>>>>>> etc. i found the SDK wasn't behaving correctly in this area, i stopped 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICE on it's own won't yield a solution, a method of interaction is
>>>>>>> required, you need to be able to interact with the hair directly, with a
>>>>>>> pen and tablet. i thought maybe this hair system could take care of the
>>>>>>> guides, once this is done you import the guide data into ICE, which in 
>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>> takes care of populating, generating strands and such. this would allow 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> an artistic manipulation of the guides while maintaining the modularity 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> versatility of ICE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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