Panos,

So if I was going to buy a second hand card, it better go with a GTX 980 with 4gb instead of a old Titan with 6gb since the the 980 uses less power, since these cards have a 4gb geo cache limit?

Leoung

On 29/05/2015 12:47 PM, Panagiotis Zompolas wrote:
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Hey guys, Panos from Redshift here.

Just wanted to clarify that the TitanX (as well as any future compute capability 5.2 cards with more than 4GB) does /not/ have a 4GB geo cache limit. The 4GB limit only applies to earlier-generation videocards, including the old Titans/Quadros.

Kind regards,

-Panos

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Crowson
*Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 9:33 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Heavy scenes with the GTX 970

The Titan X is actually a really great value though, especially if you're a Redshift user. 12GB on a $1,000 card? Once they lift the hard-coded 4GB geo cache limit (which they really should do sooner than later), that 12GB is going to translate into not only faster renders, but a much better ability to handle dense scenes with millions of instances. I broke past 1 quadrillion triangles with a Titan Black (cramming in 32M+ instances), and I hope I get to run that test again with a Titan X someday.

-Tim

On 5/29/2015 10:28 AM, Leoung O'Young wrote:

    Hi Tim,

    You could be right.
    We had a gtx 570 with only 1.5gb and it was performing better than
    the 970 with 4gb.
    Soft is probably using the .5 of very slow memory.

    Things are really slow only when we have the camera window open.

    We are quite happy with the 970's in Redshift.
    Would love to get our hands on the Titan X with 12gb but they are
    rather expensive.

    We have a gtx 670 4gb and a gtx 690 4gb but it is really 2 card in
    one.
    We will do some testing with those cards and report back.

    Thanks,
    Leoung


    On 29/05/2015 10:17 AM, Tim Crowson wrote:

        Yeah this could possibly be happening, but indeed the scene
        would have to be pretty dense. Fire up GPU-Z and see how many
        vram XSI uses. I know that for Redshift, the devs had to add a
        patch just for the 970 to actually ignore the 500MB of slow
        memory that Nvidia put on the 970. Or something like that. I
        suppose if that section of memory is being accessed by XSI,
        and since it's much slower than the rest of the on-board
        memory, perhaps that could have an effect like this? I'm
        talking a bit out of my area though....

        (backstory: When Nvidia shipped the 970, they got a lot of
        backlash.... the 970 technically does have 4GB of memory, but
        500MB of that operates at a speed that makes it virtually
        unusable for things like rendering (and other stuff), and
        indeed early on caused dramatic performance problems and
        slow-downs. So in reality, we only have 3.5GB of usable memory
        to render with on that card. I do hope they don't pull that
        crap again.)

        -Tim

        On 5/28/2015 8:51 PM, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:

            If your "heavy" scene is truly heavy, past the 3.5GB mark,
            you might be bumping into a known design limitation of the
            970 that basically craps itself if memory usage exceeds
            the 3.5 mark (even if you have 4 on board).

            On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Leoung O'Young
            <digim...@digimata.com <mailto:digim...@digimata.com>> wrote:

            No, thanks for the suggestion.



            On 28/05/2015 7:46 PM, Sven Constable wrote:

            Manipulating heavy geo was a problem with ATI cards,
            nvidia usually performes well. Did you add the xsi.exe in
            the nvidia control panel?

            sven

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            Subject: Heavy scenes with the GTX 970

            We have switched some of our workstation using the GTX
            970's, they preforms quite well rendering in Redshift.
            A good bang for the buck. But we find the it is very
            sluggish manipulating heavy geometry scenes inside
            Softimage 2915.
            What is a better option?

            Thanks,
            Leoung




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