It makes me so pissed how expensive software can be. This format of distributing even sucks more. I still use Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign CS5 at home (release date 2010). I also have worked with Adobe CC for a client. In those 5 years the amount of change is so small. And a lot of new features are designed bad cause they have to continue on old crap. Not having updated this software saved me a lot of money. I don't use any 3d applications at the moment but some day in my life this subscription shit is gonna cost me so much more.
Also, which 3d artists doesn't open his application for 1 month? And why add with 52 weeks if you can't pay for each week. That would have made more sense (in a world that isn't about money). Once again FU AD. 2015-07-09 14:03 GMT+02:00 Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com>: > Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of > the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming > plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze whilst your scene crashes :). > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling < > sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering >> where their products fit into the pipeline >> >> My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. >> >> What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion >> builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as >> well... >> >> +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) >> + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) >> + 20$ Photoshop >> + 20$ Affter Effects >> >> >> 235$ ... a month >> >> Your project lasts 3 months 705$ >> >> >> The clients will love it... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs> >> >> >> >> On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz <sha...@3d-agenten.de> wrote: >> >>> I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with >>> Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the >>> game. >>> >>> Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not >>> Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... >>> >>> Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s >>> working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my >>> Adobe experience. >>> >>> Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: >>> >>>> That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon Reeves >>>> London, UK >>>> *si...@simonreeves.com <si...@simonreeves.com>* >>>> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* >>>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* >>>> >>>> On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, <pete...@skynet.be> wrote: >>>> >>>> industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. >>>>> right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, >>>>> development froze in it’s tracks. >>>>> perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they >>>>> might have a future. >>>>> >>>>> and what’s with all the guitars? >>>>> >>>>> oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and >>>>> approved >>>>> this should get flayed. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM >>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Agree with Mirko, >>>>> This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... >>>>> If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be >>>>> absolutely perfect. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see >>>>> freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly >>>>> t-shirt...did >>>>> they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the >>>>> cool kids do nowdays? >>>>> Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all >>>>> about? >>>>> >>>>> Jesus ADSK Jesus! >>>>> >>>>> 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>: >>>>> >>>>> I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target >>>>>> audience ... >>>>>> "$125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time?" >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get >>>>>> $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic < >>>>>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> rebelling. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max >>>>>>> then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to "push 3d >>>>>>> industry >>>>>>> forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* >>>>>>> do their >>>>>>> job"... >>>>>>> Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish <scotte...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a >>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers >>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new >>>>>>>> permanent licenses either. >>>>>>>> It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing >>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>> to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a >>>>>>>> generic >>>>>>>> ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of >>>>>>>> people doing >>>>>>>> cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video >>>>>>>> following the >>>>>>>> guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him >>>>>>>> tumbling >>>>>>>> and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties >>>>>>>> like being >>>>>>>> dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the >>>>>>>> people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue >>>>>>>> Fabric, >>>>>>>> Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable < >>>>>>>> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of >>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>> licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it >>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>> like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes >>>>>>>>> sense busines >>>>>>>>> wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software >>>>>>>>> even it >>>>>>>>> has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current >>>>>>>>> because they >>>>>>>>> think no one will here them otherwise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a >>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to >>>>>>>>> freelancers and the >>>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ >>>>>>>>> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>>>>> <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of *Scott >>>>>>>>> Parrish >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anybody see this today? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Barf! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >> >
