hehe wait to see new taximeter mode! you start maya and meter starts ticking like phonecall, each second takes a bit from you ronline AD wallet. if you run out of credit, maya closes and asks fr more mney to be put in ofc you can get 3 6 12 months packages worth of seconds of using time...
future is bright! On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Doeke Wartena <doeke.wart...@gmail.com> wrote: > It makes me so pissed how expensive software can be. This format of > distributing even sucks more. > I still use Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign CS5 at home (release date > 2010). I also have worked with Adobe CC for a client. > In those 5 years the amount of change is so small. And a lot of new > features are designed bad cause they have to continue on old crap. > Not having updated this software saved me a lot of money. > I don't use any 3d applications at the moment but some day in my life this > subscription shit is gonna cost me so much more. > > Also, which 3d artists doesn't open his application for 1 month? And why > add with 52 weeks if you can't pay for each week. That would have made more > sense (in a world that isn't about money). > > Once again FU AD. > > 2015-07-09 14:03 GMT+02:00 Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com>: > >> Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of >> the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming >> plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze whilst your scene crashes :). >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling < >> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering >>> where their products fit into the pipeline >>> >>> My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. >>> >>> What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion >>> builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as >>> well... >>> >>> +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) >>> + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) >>> + 20$ Photoshop >>> + 20$ Affter Effects >>> >>> >>> 235$ ... a month >>> >>> Your project lasts 3 months 705$ >>> >>> >>> The clients will love it... >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz <sha...@3d-agenten.de> wrote: >>> >>>> I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story >>>> with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play >>>> the game. >>>> >>>> Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not >>>> Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... >>>> >>>> Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s >>>> working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my >>>> Adobe experience. >>>> >>>> Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: >>>> >>>>> That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Simon Reeves >>>>> London, UK >>>>> *si...@simonreeves.com <si...@simonreeves.com>* >>>>> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* >>>>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* >>>>> >>>>> On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, <pete...@skynet.be> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. >>>>>> right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, >>>>>> development froze in it’s tracks. >>>>>> perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they >>>>>> might have a future. >>>>>> >>>>>> and what’s with all the guitars? >>>>>> >>>>>> oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and >>>>>> approved >>>>>> this should get flayed. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM >>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree with Mirko, >>>>>> This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... >>>>>> If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be >>>>>> absolutely perfect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see >>>>>> freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly >>>>>> t-shirt...did >>>>>> they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what >>>>>> the >>>>>> cool kids do nowdays? >>>>>> Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all >>>>>> about? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jesus ADSK Jesus! >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target >>>>>>> audience ... >>>>>>> "$125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get >>>>>>> $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic < >>>>>>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> rebelling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max >>>>>>>> then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to "push 3d >>>>>>>> industry >>>>>>>> forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* >>>>>>>> do their >>>>>>>> job"... >>>>>>>> Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish <scotte...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a >>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to >>>>>>>>> freelancers and the >>>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new >>>>>>>>> permanent licenses either. >>>>>>>>> It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing >>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>> to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual >>>>>>>>> subscriptions, and >>>>>>>>> more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it >>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>> as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a >>>>>>>>> generic >>>>>>>>> ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of >>>>>>>>> people doing >>>>>>>>> cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video >>>>>>>>> following the >>>>>>>>> guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him >>>>>>>>> tumbling >>>>>>>>> and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties >>>>>>>>> like being >>>>>>>>> dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the >>>>>>>>> people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue >>>>>>>>> Fabric, >>>>>>>>> Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable < >>>>>>>>> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of >>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>> licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it >>>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>>> like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers >>>>>>>>>> because they >>>>>>>>>> didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes >>>>>>>>>> sense busines >>>>>>>>>> wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software >>>>>>>>>> even it >>>>>>>>>> has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current >>>>>>>>>> because they >>>>>>>>>> think no one will here them otherwise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a >>>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to >>>>>>>>>> freelancers and the >>>>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ >>>>>>>>>> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>>>>>> <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of *Scott >>>>>>>>>> Parrish >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anybody see this today? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Barf! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >