hehe

wait to see new taximeter mode!
you start maya
and meter starts ticking like phonecall, each second takes a bit from you
ronline AD wallet.
if you run out of credit, maya closes and asks fr more mney to be put in
ofc you can get 3 6 12 months packages worth of seconds of using time...

future is bright!

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Doeke Wartena <doeke.wart...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It makes me so pissed how expensive software can be. This format of
> distributing even sucks more.
> I still use Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign CS5 at home (release date
> 2010). I also have worked with Adobe CC for a client.
> In those 5 years the amount of change is so small. And a lot of new
> features are designed bad cause they have to continue on old crap.
> Not having updated this software saved me a lot of money.
> I don't use any 3d applications at the moment but some day in my life this
> subscription shit is gonna cost me so much more.
>
> Also, which 3d artists doesn't open his application for 1 month? And why
> add with 52 weeks if you can't pay for each week. That would have made more
> sense (in a world that isn't about money).
>
> Once again FU AD.
>
> 2015-07-09 14:03 GMT+02:00 Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of
>> the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming
>> plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze  whilst your scene crashes :).
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering
>>> where their products fit into the pipeline
>>>
>>> My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone.
>>>
>>> What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion
>>> builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as
>>> well...
>>>
>>> +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut)
>>> + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut)
>>> + 20$ Photoshop
>>> + 20$ Affter Effects
>>>
>>>
>>> 235$ ... a month
>>>
>>> Your project lasts 3 months 705$
>>>
>>>
>>> The clients will love it...
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz <sha...@3d-agenten.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story
>>>> with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play
>>>> the game.
>>>>
>>>> Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not
>>>> Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep...
>>>>
>>>> Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s
>>>> working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my
>>>> Adobe experience.
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves:
>>>>
>>>>> That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon Reeves
>>>>> London, UK
>>>>> *si...@simonreeves.com <si...@simonreeves.com>*
>>>>> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>*
>>>>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>*
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, <pete...@skynet.be> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray.
>>>>>> right about when they started promoting it as industry standard,
>>>>>> development froze in it’s tracks.
>>>>>> perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they
>>>>>> might have a future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and what’s with all the guitars?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and
>>>>>> approved
>>>>>> this should get flayed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *From:* Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
>>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Agree with Mirko,
>>>>>> This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
>>>>>> If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be
>>>>>> absolutely perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see
>>>>>> freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly
>>>>>> t-shirt...did
>>>>>> they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cool kids do nowdays?
>>>>>> Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all
>>>>>> about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus ADSK Jesus!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target
>>>>>>> audience ...
>>>>>>> "$125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get
>>>>>>> $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic <
>>>>>>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> rebelling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max
>>>>>>>> then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to "push 3d
>>>>>>>> industry
>>>>>>>> forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough*
>>>>>>>> do their
>>>>>>>> job"...
>>>>>>>> Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish <scotte...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  "Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a
>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to
>>>>>>>>> freelancers and the
>>>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new
>>>>>>>>> permanent licenses either.
>>>>>>>>> It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual
>>>>>>>>> subscriptions, and
>>>>>>>>> more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it
>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>> as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a
>>>>>>>>> generic
>>>>>>>>> ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of
>>>>>>>>> people doing
>>>>>>>>> cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video
>>>>>>>>> following the
>>>>>>>>> guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him
>>>>>>>>> tumbling
>>>>>>>>> and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties
>>>>>>>>> like being
>>>>>>>>> dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the
>>>>>>>>> people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue
>>>>>>>>> Fabric,
>>>>>>>>> Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable <
>>>>>>>>> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of
>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>> licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers
>>>>>>>>>> because they
>>>>>>>>>> didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes
>>>>>>>>>> sense busines
>>>>>>>>>> wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software
>>>>>>>>>> even it
>>>>>>>>>> has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current
>>>>>>>>>> because they
>>>>>>>>>> think no one will here them otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a
>>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>>> to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to
>>>>>>>>>> freelancers and the
>>>>>>>>>> probability of selling updates is much higher.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sven
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>>>>>> <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of *Scott
>>>>>>>>>> Parrish
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody see this today?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Barf!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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