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> On 3 May 2018, at 15:27, Jonathan Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You and I are members of the same private Houdini Discord server and one of 
> the smartest individuals on that server only graduated a year or so ago (Jake 
> Rice), and he studied motion graphics not VFX.

This Jake Rice??
 
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> The core of the broadcast and advertising market is very different to the VFX 
> market (I understand you service this segment at Framestore),

Mmm… in what sense? Framestore is quite big and has quite a few departments 
tackling all aspects of post-production… I think the only thing we don’t do is 
architectural visualisation.

Click on the departments drop down
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> I'm happy that SideFX have made Houdini more accessible to uses outside of 
> typical VFX pipelines. The work of Luiz Kruel on the real-time shelf over the 
> last 18 months has been outstanding, and I expect similar efforts with motion 
> design over the next 18 months. But that doesn't mean that my architectural 
> client should stop basing the core of the pipeline around Max or that my 
> advertising clients should move from C4D for the core of their 3d output. For 
> all Houdini's power it's fundamentally an operating system for 3d. And for 
> generalist 3d output, Houdini use means that the proverbial wheel has to be 
> reinvented on a daily basis if pipelines aren't staffed by expert TD 'tool 
> makers' (as happens on typical FX pipelines). Budgets are smaller, turnaround 
> times are equally smaller, but client expectations are just as high. This 
> means that more focused tools such as Max and C4D often fit the bill better. 
> But that doesn't stop Houdini being a perfect facilitator for those occasions 
> when Max and C4D comes up short.
> 
> My clients use Maya to a lesser extent but there are other 3d segments where 
> Maya is a better workhorse than Houdini. 

Nobody said there is no space for anything else, simply that I doubt the rates 
for senior Houdini artists will go down as their expertise is essential, 
specially those that have been around for a while, are creative and resourceful 
and technically apt.

jb

> 
> None of this means I'm any less of a Houdini champion, it simply means that 
> I'm not a Houdini evangelist. They're two very different things.
> 
> Equally, my tuppence worth for today. ;)
> 
> On 3 May 2018 at 14:17, Jordi Bares <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Is it realistic assuming anyone at all (except someone with a brain the size 
> of a watermelon ;-) can come out of a 2 year course and command Houdini in 
> any meaningful way? I don’t think so… let alone their art, C4D and Houdini.
> 
> In terms of market realities and "in-house teams able to compete”, I am not 
> sure of that either… we are in times of both, commoditisation and 
> consolidation, with big companies attracting the very finest talent to the 
> finest projects and many agencies, production, broadcasters and others moving 
> into the VFX arena in the hope of a slice of the money they now spend outside 
> which ultimately will fulfil the simplest projects as scale is truly 
> challenging and therefore expensive.
> 
> Those guys that are worth their salt will have ambitions to work with the 
> best, and they will leave to get better project, better money and more 
> fulfilling careers.
> 
> My 2 cents of today
> jb
> 
> PS. BTW, Sky has closed their VFX unit.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 May 2018, at 22:26, Jonathan Moore <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Unless there is a major breakthrough in education I doubt a 20 years 
>> experience Houdini FXTD will have his rates go down… if anything is going to 
>> be the total opposite.
>> 
>> We're already seeing a leveling of the playing field with junior & 
>> middleweight motion designers. A few years back a technical artist with both 
>> C4D and Houdini skills was able to command a good 25-50% premium. These days 
>> it's an expectation of any technical artist hire (that their skills cover 
>> both C4D and Houdini, and for an hourly rate equivalent to that paid to a 
>> purely C4D technical artist a few years back). But that's as much a case of 
>> Houdini education breaking free of FX focused Universities such as 
>> Bournemouth (UK). These days Houdini is included as part of the mix in some 
>> graphic and fine arts based courses such as those on offer via the various 
>> UAL institutions (University of the Arts London). Many young freelancers 
>> touting their trade to motion design shops don't see scripting or 
>> programming as a barrier to creative expression; in many cases, they see it 
>> as a useful catalyst. 
>> 
>> I was only joshing when I spoke about reduced hourly rates, but behind the 
>> sarcasm was a reality of technical skills in the creative marketplace. As 
>> Houdini becomes more accessible to generalists, the worth of specialists is 
>> diluted. It's just the nature of things. I'm not talking FXTD's with 20 
>> years of experience here, but in-house creative teams at e.g the likes of 
>> Sky or the BBC, will be able to complete projects themselves, without having 
>> to rely on expensive freelance specialists. Generalist isn't a dirty word in 
>> these environments, for some businesses, good quality generalists are worth 
>> much more than specialists (not that they have the budgets to pay them 
>> more). SideFX's efforts has made Houdini more accessible to generalists to a 
>> certain degree, but the reality is that Houdin at the very least requires a 
>> programmatic mindset and ideally decent scripting skills. 
>> 
>> Those at the tail end of their career, that came from a pure fine arts 
>> education are at a definite disadvantage with a technical application like 
>> Houdini. 
>> 
>> Softimage was unique in it's ability to offer both technical and non 
>> technical artists uncompromised capabilities for creative expression. I'm 
>> not certain that another single DCC will come along that offers such 
>> uncompromised abilities to both audiences. And whilst that doesn't impact 
>> larger pipelines too much, I'm conscious that a fair number of people on 
>> this list run independent creative businesses (with 10 or less employees). 
>> In the past a single DCC such as Softimage was all that was needed to be 
>> competitive. These days I don't think a single DCC exists to cater to the 
>> generalist needs of these types of businesses. It's more a case of working 
>> out which pair of DCC's covers you best for the market your targeting. For 
>> some that decision will be based purely on native capabilities, for others 
>> plugin requirements/availability will be a core consideration too.
>> 
>> On 2 May 2018 at 20:42, Laurence Dodd <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> As soon as I started looking at Maya, it just made me sad, but when I delved 
>> into Houdini i felt quite at home and it always feels like they are pushing 
>> it forward.
>> Also re Maya I never had that "ooh thats a good feature", but with Houdini 
>> its all the time, I just need to up my coding skills.
>> 
>> On 2 May 2018 at 19:23, Jordi Bares <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I personally don't ever see Houdini filling the Softimage void. The 
>>> engineering that powers the Houdini user experience very often requires a 
>>> totally different mindset for solving the same end goals. I think Houdini 
>>> fills an ICE void, but the rounded user experience of Softimage is so much 
>>> harder to fill.
>> 
>> I agree the elegant “no-frills" workflow in Softimage is not going to be 
>> replicated anytime soon but there have been some truly remarkable efforts to 
>> get closer while keeping Houdini true to its procedural roots (which 
>> obviously is the right thing to do)
>> 
>>> Plus I think there are parts of the Houdini community that don't want to 
>>> see the user experience to become more artist friendly. If Houdini is 
>>> easier to drive, they might see their hourly rates drop! ;)
>> 
>> Unless there is a major breakthrough in education I doubt a 20 years 
>> experience Houdini FXTD will have his rates go down… if anything is going to 
>> be the total opposite.
>> 
>> My 2 cents
>> jb
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 May 2018 at 17:07, Laurence Dodd <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Its something I've been wondering too. I have been learning Houdini for the 
>>> last year or more, and I really like it, but I am concerned I'm going to 
>>> spend my working days doing vfx sims, which isn't my favourite. Houdini is 
>>> still very much shoved into the vfx box.
>>> I dread the thought of being forced into Maya, stick with it and hope 
>>> people start using it more generally, or start looking at C4D or something, 
>>> eek.
>>> 
>>> Laurence
>>> 
>>> On 2 May 2018 at 11:56, David Saber <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know if Houdini is somewhere used as a generalist tool: not 
>>> only simulations and FX but also modelling , texturing, , rigging, 
>>> animation, lighting a scene, etc?
>>> 
>>> Is there a company that uses Houdini this way?
>>> 
>>> And if no, do you think a company will use Houdini this way someday?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Porkpie Animation
>>> 
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