Leading dollar sign indicates parameter substitution. Embedded dollar sign
should - in theory - work.

-- Jack Krupansky

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Thomas Seidl <re...@gmx.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your answer!
>
> As mentioned, I'm aware of the problems with other characters like
> colons and dashes. I've just never run into any issues with dollar
> signs. And previously, before there was an official definition, I heard
> from several people that "valid Java identifiers" was a good rule of
> thumb – which would include dollar signs.
>
> I'd just hoped that when there would be a definition (and it's of course
> very good and important that there now is one) it would more or less
> mirror that rule of thumb and also allow for dollar signs.
>
> Now it's a pretty tough call whether to use them or not.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> On 2015-07-27 21:31, Erick Erickson wrote:
> > The problem has been that field naming conventions weren't
> > _ever_ defined strictly. It's not that anyone is taking away
> > the ability to use other characters,  rather it's codifying what's always
> > been true; Solr isn't guaranteed to play nice with naming
> > conventions other than those specified on the page you
> > referenced, alphanumerics and underscores and _not_ starting
> > with numerics.
> >
> > The danger is that parsing the incoming URL can run into
> > "issues". Take for instance a colon. How would the parsing
> > process distinguish that from a field:value separator? Or a
> > hyphen when is that NOT and when is that part of a field
> > name? Periods are also interesting. You can specify some
> > params (e.g. facet params) with periods (f.field.prop=). No
> > guarantee has ever been made that a field _name_ with a
> > period won't confuse things. It happens to work, but that's
> > not by design, just like dollar signs.
> >
> > So you can use dollar signs, but there won't be any attempts
> > to support it if some component somewhere doesn't "do the
> > right thing" with it. And no guarantee that there aren't current
> > corner cases where that causes problems. And if it does cause
> > problems, support won't be added.
> >
> > Best,
> > Erick
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Thomas Seidl <re...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've used dollar signs in field names for several years now, as an easy
> >> way to escape "bad" characters (like colons) coming in from the original
> >> source of the data, and I've never had any problems. Since I don't know
> >> of any Solr request parameters that use a dollar sign as a special
> >> character, I also wouldn't know where one might occur.
> >>
> >> But while I remember that the "supported" format for field names was
> >> previously completely undocumented (and it was basically "almost
> >> anything is supported, but some things might not work with some
> >> characters"), I now read that for about a year there has been a strict
> >> definition/recommendation in the Solr wiki [1] which doesn't allow for
> >> dollar signs.
> >>
> >> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Defining+Fields
> >>
> >> So, my question is: Is this just for an easier definition, or is there a
> >> real danger of problems when using dollar signs in field names? Or,
> >> differently: How "bad" of an idea is it?
> >> Also, where was this definition discussed, why was this decision
> >> reached? Is there really an argument against dollar signs? I have to say
> >> it is really very handy to have a character available for field names
> >> that is usually not allowed in programming language's identifiers (as a
> >> cheap escape character).
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Thomas
> >
>

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