Hi David,

Your Xmx seems to be an overkill though without usage stats, this cannot be
factified. I think you should analyze long GC pauses given that you have so
much difference between the min and max. I prefer making the min/max same
before stressing on the values. You can start with 20G but what would you
do with the remaining memory?

PS: Your configuration is something I admire. :P

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 01:56, David Hastings <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> and if this may be of use:
> https://imgur.com/a/qXBuSxG
>
> just been more or less winging the options since solr 1.3
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 2:41 PM Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org> wrote:
>
> > On 12/5/2019 11:58 AM, David Hastings wrote:
> > > as of now we do an xms of 8gb and xmx of 60gb, generally through the
> > > dashboard the JVM hangs around 16gb.  I know Xms and Xmx are supposed
> to
> > be
> > > the same so thats the change #1 on my end, I am just concerned of
> > dropping
> > > it from 60 as thus far over the last few years I have had no problems
> nor
> > > performance issues.  I know its said a lot of times to make it lower
> and
> > > let the OS use the ram for caching the file system/index files, so my
> > first
> > > experiment was going to be around 20gb, was wondering if this seems
> > sound,
> > > or should i go even lower?
> >
> > The Xms and Xmx settings should be the same so Java doesn't need to take
> > special action to increase the pool size when more than the minimum is
> > required.  Java tends to always increase to the maximum as it runs, so
> > there's usually little benefit to specifying a lower minimum than the
> > maximum.  With a 60GB max heap, Java is likely to grab a little more
> > than 60GB from the OS, regardless of how much heap is actually in use.
> >
> > If you can provide GC logs from Solr that cover a signficant timeframe,
> > especially heavy indexing, we can analyze those and make an estimate
> > about the values you should have for Xms and Xmx.  It will only be a
> > guess ... something might happen later that requires more heap.
> >
> > We can't make recommendations without hard data.  The information you
> > provided isn't enough to guess how much heap you'll need.  Depending on
> > how such a system is used, a few GB might be enough, or you might need a
> > lot more.
> >
> >
> >
> https://lucidworks.com/post/sizing-hardware-in-the-abstract-why-we-dont-have-a-definitive-answer/
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shawn
> >
>


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