The only weird thing is I see that for instance I have
<maxTime>${solr.autoCommit.maxTime:15000}</maxTime>  and similar entries.
It looks like a template gone wrong, but this was not caused due to an
internal development. It must have been come from a Solr version.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:49 PM Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is btw. a Linux system and autosoftcommit is set to -1. However, indeed
> openSearcher is set to false. A commit is set to true after doing all the
> updates, but the index is not shrinking. The files are not disappearing
> during shutdown, but they disappear after starting up again.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:04 PM Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thanks for the answer I will look into it - it is a possible explanation.
>>
>> > Am 20.01.2020 um 14:30 schrieb Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com
>> >:
>> >
>> > Jörn:
>> >
>> > The only thing I can think of that _might_ cause this (I’m not all that
>> familiar with the code) is if your solrconfig settings never open a
>> searcher. Either you need to be sure openSearcher is set to true in the
>> autocommit section in solrconfig.xml or your autoSoftCommit is set to
>> something other than -1. Real Time Get requires access to all segments and
>> it takes a new searcher being opened to release them. Actually, a very
>> quick test would be to submit 
>> “http://host:port/solr/collection/update?commit=true”
>> and see if the index shrinks as a result. You don’t need to change
>> solrconfig.xml for that test.
>> >
>> > If you are opening a new searcher, this is very concerning. There
>> shouldn’t be anything else you have to set to prevent the index from
>> growing. Could you check one thing? Compare the directory listing of the
>> data/index directory just before you shut down Solr and then just after.
>> What I’m  interested in is whether some subset of files disappears when you
>> shut down Solr. This assumes you’re running on a *nix system, if Windows
>> you may have to start Solr again to see the difference.
>> >
>> > So if you open a searcher and still see the problem, I can try to
>> reproduce it. Can you share your solrconfig file or at least the autocommit
>> and cache portions?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Erick
>> >
>> >> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> From what is see it basically duplicates the index files, but does not
>> delete the old ones.
>> >> It uses caffeine cache.
>> >>
>> >> What I observe is that there is an exception when shutting down for
>> the collection that is updated - timeout waiting for all directory ref
>> counts to be released - gave up waiting on CacheDir.
>> >>
>> >>>> Am 20.01.2020 um 11:26 schrieb Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry I missed a line - not tlog is growing but the /data/index
>> folder is growing - until restart when it seems to be purged.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 20.01.2020 um 10:47 schrieb Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have a test system here with Solr 8.4 (but this is also
>> reproducible in older Solr versions), which has an index which is growing
>> and growing - until the SolrCloud instance is restarted - then it is
>> reduced tot the expected normal size.
>> >>>> The collection is configured to do auto commit after 15000 ms. I
>> expect the index grows comes due to the usage of atomic updates, but I
>> would expect that due to the auto commit this does not grow all the time.
>> >>>> After the atomic updates a commit is done in any case.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don’t see any error message in the log files, but the growth is
>> quiet significant and frequent restarts are not a solution of course.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe I am overlooking here a tiny configuration issue?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best regards
>> >
>>
>

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