Just one more thing ,when we are talking about Optimization , we
are referring to  HD  free space for  replicating the index  (2 or 3 times
the index size  ) .what is role of  RAM (OS) here?

Regards
Suajtha

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Sujatha Arun <suja.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks that helps.
>
> Regards
> Sujatha
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Jaeger, Jay - DOT 
> <jay.jae...@dot.wi.gov>wrote:
>
>> Well, since the OS RAM includes the JVM RAM, that is part of your
>> requirement, yes?  Aside from the JVM and normal OS requirements, all you
>> need OS RAM for is file caching.  Thus, for updates, the OS RAM is not a
>> major factor.  For searches, you want sufficient OS RAM to cache enough of
>> the index to get the query performance you need, and to cache queries inside
>> the JVM if you get a lot of repeat queries (see solrconfig.xml for the
>> various caches: we have not played with them much).  So, the amount of RAM
>> necessary for that is very much dependent upon the size of your index, so I
>> cannot give you a simple number.
>>
>> You seem to believe that you have to have sufficient memory to have the
>> entire index in memory.  Except where extremely high performance is
>> required, I have not found that to be the case.
>>
>> This is just one of those "your mileage may vary" things.  There is not a
>> single answer or formula that fits every situation.
>>
>> JRJ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sujatha Arun [mailto:suja.a...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:58 PM
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Optimization /Commit memory
>>
>> Thanks  Jay ,
>>
>> I was trying to compute the *OS RAM requirement*  *not JVM RAM* for a 14
>> GB
>> Index [cumulative Index size of all Instances].And I put it thus -
>>
>> Requirement of Operating System RAM for an Index of  14GB is   - Index
>> Size
>> + 3 Times the  maximum Index Size of Individual Instance for Optimize .
>>
>> That is to say ,I have several Instances ,combined Index Size is 14GB
>> .Maximum Individual Index Size is 2.5GB .so My requirement for OS RAM is
>>  14GB +3 * 2.5 GB  ~ = 22GB.
>>
>> Correct?
>>
>> Regards
>> Sujatha
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Jaeger, Jay - DOT <jay.jae...@dot.wi.gov
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Commit does not particularly spike disk or memory usage, unless you are
>> > adding a very large number of documents between commits.  A commit can
>> cause
>> > a need to merge indexes, which can increase disk space temporarily.  An
>> > optimize is *likely* to merge indexes, which will usually increase disk
>> > space temporarily.
>> >
>> > How much disk space depends very much upon how big your index is in the
>> > first place.  A 2 to 3 times factor of the sum of your peak index file
>> size
>> > seems safe, to me.
>> >
>> > Solr uses only modest amounts of memory for the JVM for this stuff.
>> >
>> > JRJ
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sujatha Arun [mailto:suja.a...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:04 AM
>> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> > Subject: Optimization /Commit memory
>> >
>> > Do we require  2 or 3 Times OS RAM memory or  Hard Disk Space while
>> > performing Commit or Optimize or Both?
>> >
>> > what is the requirement in terms of  size of RAM and HD for commit and
>> > Optimize
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Sujatha
>> >
>>
>
>

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