The leader doesn't really do a lot more work than any of the replicas, so I 
don't think it's likely that important. If someone starts running into 
problems, that's usually when we start looking for solutions.

- Mark

On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:20 PM, "Vaillancourt, Tim" <tvaillanco...@ea.com> wrote:

> I sent this request to "ServerA" in this case, which became the leader of all 
> shards. As far as I know you're supposed to issue this call to just one 
> server as it issues the calls to the other leaders/replicas in the 
> background, right?
> 
> I am expecting the single collections API call to spread the leaders evenly 
> across SOLR instances.
> 
> Hopefully I am just doing/expecting something wrong :).
> 
> Tim Vaillancourt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:44 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a running 
> SolrCloud?
> 
> Which of your three hosts did you point this request at?
> 
> Upayavira
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, at 09:13 PM, Vaillancourt, Tim wrote:
>> Correction, I used this curl:
>> 
>> curl -v
>> 'http://<HOST>:8983/solr/admin/collections?action=CREATE&name=test&numShards=3&replicationFactor=2&maxShardsPerNode=2'
>> 
>> So 3 instances, 3 shards, 2 replicas per shard. ServerA becomes leader 
>> of all 3 shards in 4.1 with this call.
>> 
>> Tim Vaillancourt
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vaillancourt, Tim [mailto:tvaillanco...@ea.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:27 AM
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org; markrmil...@gmail.com
>> Subject: RE: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a 
>> running SolrCloud?
>> 
>> Thanks Mark,
>> 
>> The real driver for me wanting to promote a different leader is when I 
>> create a new Collection via the Collections API across a multi-server 
>> SolrCloud, the leader of each shard is always the same host, so you're 
>> right that I'm tackling the wrong problem with this request, although 
>> it would fix it for me.
>> 
>> If I create the cores manually via the cores API, one-by-one, I am 
>> able to get what I expect, but when running this Collections API call 
>> on a 3 SOLR 4.1 instance, 3 shard setup, 1 server becomes the leader 
>> of all 3 shards, meaning it will get all the writes for everything 
>> (correct me if I am wrong). If so, this will not scale well with all 
>> writes to one node (or correct me if I am wrong)?
>> 
>> curl -v
>> 'http://<HOST>:8983/solr/admin/collections?action=CREATE&name=test&numShards=3&replicationFactor=1&maxShardsPerNode=2'
>> 
>> Currently on my 3 instance SOLR 4.1 setup, the above call creates the
>> following:
>> 
>> - ServerA is the leader of all 3 shards (the problem I want to address).
>> - ServerB + ServerC are automagically replicas of the 3 leader shards 
>> on ServerA.
>> 
>> So again, my issue is one server gets all the writes. Does anyone else 
>> encounter this? If so, I should spawn a separate thread on my specific 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Miller [mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:44 PM
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a 
>> running SolrCloud?
>> 
>> You can't easily do it the way it's implemented in ZooKeeper. We would 
>> probably internally have to do the same thing - elect a new leader and 
>> drop him until the one we wanted came up. The main thing doing it 
>> internally would gain is that you could skip the elected guy from 
>> becoming the actual leader and just move on to the next candidate.
>> Still some tricky corner cases to deal with and such as well.
>> 
>> I think for most things you would use this to solve, there is probably 
>> an alternate thing that should be addressed.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Vaillancourt, Tim 
>> <tvaillanco...@ea.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I feel having to unload the leader core to force an election is "hacky", 
>>> and as far as I know would still leave which node becomes the Leader to 
>>> chance, ie I cannot guarantee "NodeX" becomes Leader 100% in all cases.
>>> 
>>> Also, this imposes additional load temporarily.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to force the winner of the Election, and if not, is there a 
>>> known feature-request for this?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Tim Vaillancourt
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joseph Dale [mailto:joey.d...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 7:42 AM
>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a running 
>>> SolrCloud?
>>> 
>>> With solrclound all cores are collections. The collections API it just a 
>>> wrapper to call the core api a million times with one command.
>>> 
>>> to 
>>> /solr/admin/cores?action=CREATE&name=core1&collection=core1&shard=1
>>> 
>>> Basically your "creating" the shard again, after leader props have gone 
>>> out. Solr will check ZK and find a core meeting that description, then 
>>> simply get a copy of the index from the leader of that shard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Brett Hoerner <br...@bretthoerner.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is the inverse I'd use to re-create/load a core on another 
>>>> machine but make sure it's also "known" to SolrCloud/as a shard?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Joseph Dale <joey.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To be more clear lets say bob it the leader of core 1. On bob do a 
>>>>> /admin/cores?action=unload&name=core1. This removes the core/shard 
>>>>> from bob, giving the other servers a chance to grab leader props.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Joey
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Brett Hoerner <br...@bretthoerner.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a 5 server cluster running 1 collection with 20 shards,
>>>>> replication
>>>>>> factor of 2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Earlier this week I had to do a rolling restart across the 
>>>>>> cluster, this worked great and the cluster stayed up the whole 
>>>>>> time. The problem is
>>>>> that
>>>>>> the last node I restarted is now the leader of 0 shards, and is 
>>>>>> just holding replicas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've noticed this node has abnormally high load average, while 
>>>>>> the other nodes (who have the same number of shards, but more 
>>>>>> leaders on
>>>>>> average)
>>>>> are
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, I'm wondering if that loud could be related to being a 5x 
>>>>>> replica and 0x leader?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second, I was wondering if I could somehow flag single shards to
>>>>> re-elect a
>>>>>> leader (or force a leader) so that I could more evenly distribute 
>>>>>> how
>>>>> many
>>>>>> leader shards each physical server has running?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> - Mark
>> 
> 

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