On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Shawn Heisey <s...@elyograg.org> wrote:

>> 
> 
> I've just locate a previous message on this list from Mark Miller saying that 
> in Solr 4, commitWithin is a soft commit.

Yes, that's true.

> 
> You should definitely wait for Mark or another committer to verify what I'm 
> saying in the small novel I am writing below.
> 
> My personal opinion is that you should have frequent soft commits (auto, 
> manual, commitWithin, or some combination) along with less frequent (but not 
> infrequent) autoCommit with openSearcher=false.  The autoCommit (which is a 
> hard commit) does two things - ensures that the transaction logs do not grow 
> out of control, and persists changes to disk.  If you have auto soft commits 
> and updateLog is enabled, I would say that you are pretty safe using 
> commit=false on your DIH updates.

Right.

> 
> If Mark agrees with what I have said, and your config/schema checks out OK 
> with expected norms, you may be running into bugs.  It might also be a case 
> of not enough CPU/RAM resources for the system load.  You never responded in 
> another thread with the output of the 'free' command, or the size of your 
> indexes.  Putting 13 busy Solr cores onto one box is overkill, unless the 
> machine has 16-32 CPU cores *and* plenty of fast RAM to cache all your 
> indexes in the OS disk cache.  Based on what you're saying here and in the 
> other thread, you probably need a java heap size of 4GB or 8GB, heavily tuned 
> JVM garbage collection options, and depending on the size of your indexes, 
> 16GB may not be enough total system RAM.
> 
> IMHO, you should not use trunk (5.0) for anything that you plan to one day 
> run in production.  Trunk is very volatile, large-scale changes sometimes get 
> committed with only minimal testing.  The dev branch named branch_4x 
> (currently 4.3) is kept reasonably stable almost all of the time.  Version 
> 4.2 has just been released - it is already available on the faster mirrors 
> and there should be a release announcement within a day from now.
> 
> If this is not being set up in anticipation for a production deployment, then 
> trunk would be fine, but bugs are to be expected.  If the same problems do 
> not happen in 4.2 or branch_4x, then I would move the discussion to the dev 
> list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shawn
> 

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