Hi,

Everyone take a deep breath...

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:41:01 -0600
"Nick Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No it is not doing and decoding to the mail, no there is not anything before
> SA doing its job with the mail, and where was I complaining ?

You should probably split that sentence into one or two statements
followed by a question, preferably with a bit of contextual quoting
above it so we know what the hell you're referring to. See below for
more discussion of why you were rightfully dinged for top quoting.

> And I know for a fact SA is doing it to the mail as it was running fine for
> over a year till I installed SA, and it was working fine after till I turned
> off defangmime.

Hmm. It's still not clear what your operating environment is (e.g.
operating system, MTA, method of calling SpamAssassin, means of mail
delivery, SpamAssassin version.) You haven't really given anyone any
specifics on how your system is set up or how it operates, or on the
problem messages and without any of that it's highly unlikely that
anyone could help you, even if they wanted to.

> You sure have an attitude.

Given that you're the one asking for help, perhaps you ought to just
think that rather than actually writing it. I can't see how that remark
gets you any closer to a solution.

> If you don't like how I post then don't read it and dam sure don't reply.
>
> I asked for help not your opinion on my posting methods.

Top posting is fairly universally frowned-upon and has been for a long,
long time for very, very good reasons. It shows a lack of respect for
those that respond to you and implies you couldn't be bothered to read
or respond to the specifics of the previous post. It also makes
following the train of logic more difficult for others who might want to
step in and help, and wastes bandwidth and reading time. For more
background on the problems with top posting, see:

http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost

http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html

http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=top+quoting+posting+FAQ

In short,

A. No.
Q. Does top-posting make sense?

> If it stresses you that much don't respond, and do us both a favor.

IIRC, you're the one asking for help. If you think that you'll get
better answers quicker by not posting a shred of diagnostic information,
specifics of your local environment, or steps that might allow other to
reproduce what you're seeing, and by insulting people on the list, well,
it's not the method I'd choose, but it may work for you.

Seriously though, if you're not getting the answers you want from this
forum, perhaps you could create some test messages that cause SA to fail
in the way you describe and post those. Or better still, read the source
code, find and fix the error and send in a patch. These might help:

- `perldoc perldebug`
- http://www.manning.com/Johnson/
- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pperl3/
- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cookbook/

Good luck, have fun,

-- Bob

[Obligatory backstory that isn't easily woven back into a coherent whole follows...]

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony L. Svanstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Nick Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email.
> 
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write:
> >
> > NM> It is only doing it to some HTML messages other come out fine.
> >
> >  and I told you that with this problem with the server that I mentioned it
> > would only do this to _some_ HTML-messages! Some, not all, only some.
> >
> >  Did you bother to check if the server's doing any decoding? Did you
> bother to
> > check if there's anything before SA doing anything with the e-mails? Did
> you
> > bother to do anything but simply complain to the list about something that
> you
> > think that SA is doing wrong?
> >
> >
> >  AND what everever you do, learn how to quote... You're supposed to edit
> away
> > the parts you're not replying to, and then add your reply after the quoted
> > text.


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