With all due respect, there is nothing private about the internet to
begin with.  Don't put anything in an email or in a post on a website
that you would not like to read in the newspaper.  Except for secure
servers and scrambling, the internet is not private and was not intended
to be.  When I joined the Spambayes email list, the warning notification
was there, in plain sight, and I read it.
 
Those to whom this has caused serious distress either (1) failed to take
the time to read the warning; (2) are uniformed regarding internet
security and privacy; (3) are careless with their internet security or
any combination of the preceding.  The distress is self inflicted and
not the responsibility of Spambayes.  
 
Carl Swofford
Florida State Captain
Patriot Guard Riders
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
386-793-0030
 
Riding in loving memory of CW2 Justin S. Swofford
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Spambayes] FW: =Spambayes= PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS
VERYIMPORTANT
 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: OConchubhair, Andoni 
Sent: 30 June 2008 11:55 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Cc: Carrie Deutsch; 'Amedee Van Gasse' 
Subject: RE: =Spambayes= PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT 
Hi, 
Mail Chain moved from Spambayes User list. 
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2008-June/021978.html 
Though I would usually agree with this, now that I have spent a few
months on this list I find that the number of people to whom this causes
serious distress is significant.
The warning IS there when you sign up but I imagine that I didn't read
it and I can therefore see how many others might not have either. Good
software practice involves checking with users when a decision they have
made is going to have a serious impact: "Do you want to save the changes
before exiting: Yes/No/Cancel" being the obvious example.
To that end, I suggest that someone who knows how might add a
confirmation checkbox and popup window to the sentence: 
"Please note that this is a public mailing list: all messages sent to
this list are visible to the public, and are publicly archived."
The point would be that you can click on a link to pop up a box which
explains the public nature of this list. There would also be a check-box
which you have to check to acknowledge that you understand, before it
will allow you to click the "Subscribe" button at the bottom of the
page. A bit like the "Terms & Conditions" check-boxes in many corporate
download sites.
Thanks, 
Andoni OConchubhair 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse 
Sent: 30 June 2008 10:54 
To: Carrie Deutsch 
Cc: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Spambayes] PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL _ IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT 
On Mon, June 30, 2008 03:53, Carrie Deutsch wrote: 
> Sorry about failing netiquette. 
> 
> I had no idea it was a public email I was sending. There was no
indication 
> of that when I first sent the email, I thought I was emailing the
people 
> concerned, and I was pretty annoyed, as I had obviously given them my 
> contact details not knowing they would be attached to some form that
would 
> go public. 
> 
> I guess there is nothing I can do now, and my contact details I see
got 
> attached to the email that I had no idea was public as it was in my 
> signature. 
> 
> I don't think it is good that an email address on a website should
lead to 
> a 
> public list if you don't know that it will 
> 
> Thanks for your response 
> 
> Carrie 
I'm sorry to tell you that it is clearly stated on the website: 
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html 
There are currently five mailing lists of interest. All lists are
public, 
and all are publicly archived. This is normal practice for open-source 
projects, and you should be aware that all email sent to one of these 
addresses will be visible to the world 
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