Luke> I have had problems with all secure access, including gmail, or
    Luke> rebranded gmail, such as my ISP's offering.  But they're both
    Luke> working at present, and it's hotmail that has still never worked
    Luke> (and yes, I am using pop access).

    Luke> POP server for windows live is pop3.live.com and port is 995.

One of the denizens of the fetchmail-users mailing list suggested stunnel.
It can do the secure port 995 connection and listen on local port 110.  Your
SpamBayes setup can thus operate 100% locally.  Here are a couple links:

    http://www.stunnel.org/
    http://www.peterbe.com/plog/blogitem-20031117-1600

This is likely to be much more reliable.  Let us know how it works for you.

Skip
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