Sam,

I agree, it would be excellent if the filters can be enabled with SMTP-AUTH.


On 09/04/13 08:58, Faris Raouf wrote:
>> I have a doubt:
>> If a user authenticates with SMTP auth. All filters are ignored?
>> If true, Why?
>>
> All filters other than the reply delay (earlytalker filter) are, as far as
> I'm aware, disabled when smtp authentication happens.
>
> But I was going to post about this too. I also would love the *option* to
> enable filters even if there's authentication. Sam, please can you consider
> this for a future version?
>
> I know it is unusual to want filtering enabled if there's authentication
> going on. Let me explain why I want it:
>
> We get 100s of connections from botnets (almost every connection is from a
> different IP, so fail2ban etc is no good) trying smtp auth dictionary
> attacks. They also use username/password combos from hacked third party
> sites (some of which made the news) where the password were not
> encrypted/didn't have salt.
>
> In order to reduce the impact of such attacks, I want to block smtp auth
> from certain countries - countries where we have no customers and therefore
> nobody should be authenticating from them. These countries are where the
> bulk of these attacks are coming from. Firewalling is not an option as there
> are too many IPs involved.
>
> I already have an local dnsbl set up with country-specific IP ranges loaded,
> which I already use in conjunction with mod_security on port 80 (and also
> via spamdyke on port 25 ). But I want to use this on port 587 too, even when
> someone authenticates correctly.
>
> Yes, I know, there is the potential for some issues -- what if a customer
> goes on vacation to a country that I've blocked. But in general I'm willing
> to risk this.
>
> I also want to block smtp auth if the connecting IP has no rDNS. I've been
> looking at my logs, and not one single legitimate auth in the past 30 days
> has come from an IP with no rDNS. But a reasonable proportion of botnet auth
> attempts have come from IPs with no rDNS.
>
> So basically that's why I would like the option to enable the usual dnsbl,
> rdns, etc etc filtering rules even if authentication happens.
>
> Ideally I'd like a special error message when there's a successful auth from
> a "filtered" IP. This would immediately tell me that the bad guys most
> likely have someone's real username/password combo, allowing me to change
> the password on that account before any damage has occurred.
>
> In addition, please can there also be a time limit option on successful smtp
> auth connections please? Last week I had a spammer who authenticated and
> stayed connected for two and a half hours sending spam after spam (not too
> much damage was done as I saw it happen and stopped the outgoing queue -- I
> just got confused and didn't think to kill the qmail-smtpd process manually.
> But that's another story).
>
>
>
>
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