Hi all,

I am comparing XPress peptide results between TPP versions *4.1* and *4.6*. 
Given the same input pep.xml file and mzXML file, the results from the two 
versions are quite different (R-squared of ~0.3). To my surprise, the 4.1 
results seem much better. Let me provide some details, and maybe someone 
can help me improve my results.


*Version and Parameters*

TPP 4.1
<xpressratio_summary version="2.1 (TPP v4.1 JETSTREAM (RC) rev 0, Build 
200806181121 (linux))" author="Jimmy Eng" same_scan_range="Y" 
labeled_residues="Kn" xpress_light="1" massdiff="K,8.04 n,8.04" 
masstol="0.02"/>

TPP 4.6
<xpressratio_summary version="2.1 (TPP v4.6 OCCUPY rev 3, Build 
201308191103 (linux))" author="Jimmy Eng" same_scan_range="Y" 
labeled_residues="Kn" xpress_light="1" massdiff="K,8.044370 n,8.044370" 
masstol="0.020000" ppmtol="0" min_num_chromatogram_points="6" 
min_num_isotope_peaks="0"/>


*Specific Result*

*pep.xml input:*

scan: 1576
precursor_neutral_mass: 2492.1902
assumed_charge: 3
retention_time_sec: 1771.0
peptide: GQKSPGALETPSAAGSQGNTASQGK
calc_neutral_pep_mass: 2492.1908
massdiff: -0.000630
mod_nterm_mass: 29.039125
mod_aminoacid_mass
 - position 3, mass 156.126263
 - position 4, mass 166.998358
 - position 25, mass 156.126263

*TPP 4.1 xpressratio result:*

light: scans 1555-1604, mass 2493.199, area 3.13e+06
heavy: scans 1555-1604, mass 2517.332, area: 3.43e+06
decimal_ratio: 0.91

*TPP 4.6 xpressratio result:*

light: scans 1524-1649, mass 2493.1981, area 3.19e+06
heavy: scans 1524-1644, mass 2517.3312, area: 3.43e+06
decimal_ratio: 0.93

*Notes:*

   - The 4.1 light mass is 1.008 Da greater than the peptide neutral mass, 
   and the 4.6 light mass is 1.0073 Da greater. In this regard, I believe 
*version 
   4.6 is correct*, because the light mass equals the neutral mass plus the 
   mass of a proton (rather than the mass of hydrogen).


   - The 4.6 result has a very wide scan window. In this regard, the *4.1 
   result seems correct*. The image below is an extracted ion chromatogram, 
   with the 4.6 result width. On the other hand, the 4.1 result starts and 
   stops where you would expect, around 19.25s - 29.75s.


<https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kyql1liKr5k/UqJXaoatn0I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/Yysv4stwVJA/s1600/1576.xic.png>


*Comparison*

The first scatter plot (n=197) shows log2 ratios for the two versions, with 
a poor correlation. The second two plots show the xpress ratios vs 
MasschroQ ratios for confirmation. You can see that the old TPP 4.1 results 
correlate much better with MassChroQ.


<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ak_V4WFznps/UqYxM0Iu-LI/AAAAAAAAAIg/h4TFkCe_uOw/s1600/xpress_oldvnew.png>

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JCh0394YMf8/UqYxTpJa2mI/AAAAAAAAAIo/td4xnbyYAno/s1600/xpress_mcqvold.png>

<https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mH9zEfFJwf0/UqYxaHxSbLI/AAAAAAAAAIw/7RjADenxX2E/s1600/xpress_mcqvnew.png>


*Summary*

There seem to be changes in xpress between TPP 4.1 and 4.6, despite the 
version number remaining the same, which result in significantly different 
quantification.

   - Is there a changelog for xpress?
   - Am I correct about light and heavy mass calculations? When did those 
   change?
   - How can I improve the peak start/end scans in the current (TPP 4.6) 
   version of xpress so that they are not so wide?
   - Has any one else found that xpress quantifications have become 
   seemingly *less* accurate in recent versions? Are there important new 
   parameters that I need to tweak, or some other change that is necessary 
   with the new version to improve my results?
   - If I were to revert to a previous version of xpress, should I revert 
   all the way to 4.1, or is there an intermediate version that would be 
   preferable?


Thanks so much,
and let me know if there is anything else useful that I can provide

Jeff

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