--- In [email protected], "Rob Butler" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Each shot is either (Rr)' F (Rr) or (Ll) F' (Ll)"
> 
> Why not (Rr) U' (Rr)'???  It is the same 'go and get' approach, 
> still only three moves, but the middle move is U instead of F 
> keeping the entire step in the (Ll), U, (Rr) gen category.

Yes, you're right. Actually it's of course the same, just 
holding/rotating the cube differently. I actually do something in the 
"middle" I think.

I've included this remark on my page now. I also fixed two mistakes in 
algorithms, made the page look a bit better, and added Pedro's issue 
and another suggestion how to hold your arms.

> If stuck with a diagonal pair at the end it can also be quite 
> elegantly combined into:
> 
>     (Rr)  U' (Rr)'  U   (Ll)' U  (Ll)   [pieces in Ufl and Ubr]
> or  (Ll)' U  (Ll)   U'  (Rr)  U' (Rr)'  [pieces in Ubl and Ufr]

Right. To be honest, I also use that in the middle of the solve. When 
the intervening shot would have to go to L or R, I'd have to rotate 
the cube first, so instead I solve the diagonal pair like you said. 
It's also good because it doesn't require any 'setup' move, you can 
use one of those two algs right away (this is something I only thought 
about right now). I'll add this to my page, too.

> Do you have any data on number of moves for your technique compared 
> the 'usual' approach (opp centers, any 3rd face, adjacent 4th, 
> simultanious adjacent 5th/6th)??

I think both need about the same number of moves, around 30. I'm 
usually a bit over 30 but when I explained my method to Ron he soon 
told me he averages about 28-29 I think. Since I don't use that 
'usual' approach, I don't exactly know the number of moves it 
requires, but I think it's about 30 as well.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions :-)

Cheers!
Stefan






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