lol ces consultants toujours sympa de voir que rien ne change surtout dans
leur ptit monde �triqu�, o� ils se servent de tout sans savoir comment ca
marche,  en retire une marge a rien faire, et critique par la suite ...
...enfin bref hors sujet mais bien enervant......

Stephane

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edouard Gomez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [speedtouch] Re: PPPoE via USB DSL modems without a NIC]


>
> Maxwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hi Peter.
> > Greetings from Toronto, Cananda.
> > After reading most of the posts in (
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02986.html ) the
> > SpeedTouch mail archive, I now understand why Linux is not gaining much
> > headway on the desktop.
> > Have you figured out a "reliable" solution yet?
> >
>
> Nothing to do with that, moreover linux is just the kernel not the entire
OS.
>
>
> > Hardware companies like Alcatel and the Linux kernel people must
> > collaborate so that there is one "best" way to add support for their
> > products and therefore make Linux look more attractive to Windoze users.
> > Reading all these posts has been nothing less than neauseating as their
> > is no unified solution.
> >
>
> They provided a kernel driver, but it was not very SMP compliant, and not
very
> stable. Moreover they discontinued the support of the driver. We have
nothing
> in common with alcatel. We are just volunteers (i would precise we are
> currently students). We earn no fees making this driver, so please be
> indulgent with us.
>
> > I also notice that a huge issue is never discussed about PPPoE and USB
> > DSL modems. This issue is about using PPPoE to connect to the net
> > without requiring an Ethernet card.
> > Surely Linux is able to allow me to access the net without having to
> > install a NIC. After all, Windoze-XP does it quite well with my Alcatel
> > Speed Touch USB DSL modem. Everywhere I look for info on this relating
> > to Linux, it says that I need a NIC.
>
> False, this is FUD, you don't need a NIC. If you like so much Windows XP
> why not staying with that. It's simple to ask for perfect drivers in Linux
> but unlike Alcatel we have not the specs of the modem and our work is much
> much harder knowing nothing about the hardware you're writing a driver
> for.
>
> >
> > I say ridiculous!
> >
>
> Your post is also ridiculous !
>
> > Look at it this way! Bell Canada's Sympatico High Speed DSL service
> > costs $28 US for unlimited access, and the majority of their customers
> > all choose the USB non-Ethernet card option. I'd say they have, at least
> > 2 or 3 million subscribers (and growing). As you can see, that's a lot
> > of potential Linux users who are stuck on Windoze and will NOT switch
> > over if they can't even access the net. Do you know how frustraing it is
> > to be captivated by KDE3 and/or Enlightenment, but can't even get on the
> > net? I hate this dual booting crap! I want to use Linux full time.
> >
>
> Then ask for PPPoA access and help us obtaining the specs of the modem.
>
> > I say its high time this silly scenario comes to a close.
> >
>
> Well feel free to contribute.
>
> > Thanks for listening and I hope you also find a "reliable" solution.
> >
>
> As soon as someone provide one.
>
> > Max.
> > ======
> > (IT Consultant - Java, PHP4, J2EE, Delphi, SQL, PostNuke, Phython,
Writer)
> >
>
> Ok i see the kind of person you are, using lot of things even without
> knowing how they really work. Well I think you have not the skills to help
us.
>
> Last words :
>
> Sincerely, your post has upset me, we don't need such a critic if the
arguments
> are not correct. Really, i don't like people like you who is just telling
> things are bad and who does not give even one solution.
>
> Bye et "Bon vent".
>
> --
> Edouard Gomez
>
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