On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 12:32, Maxwell wrote: > Hi Peter. > Greetings from Toronto, Cananda. > After reading most of the posts in ( > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02986.html ) the > SpeedTouch mail archive, I now understand why Linux is not gaining much > headway on the desktop. > Have you figured out a "reliable" solution yet?
Depends how you define reliable. Most people have no problems with getting the user-mode drivers running. We have had uptimes of >30days reported which compared to my Alcatel+Windows experience is an order of magnitude different. You generally only see problems (and the occasional development disscussion) on this list. > Hardware companies like Alcatel and the Linux kernel people must > collaborate so that there is one "best" way to add support for their > products and therefore make Linux look more attractive to Windoze users. > Reading all these posts has been nothing less than neauseating as their > is no unified solution. A few points worth mentioning: 1. This list isn't for the kernel solution 2. This driver is a result of reverse engineering without access to the Speedtouch specs - we are not affiliated to Alcatel in any way. 3. *I* consider diversity a good thing in software. We leave it up to the distribution makers to decide which solution best fits their (and their customers) needs. > I also notice that a huge issue is never discussed about PPPoE and USB > DSL modems. This issue is about using PPPoE to connect to the net > without requiring an Ethernet card. > Surely Linux is able to allow me to access the net without having to > install a NIC. After all, Windoze-XP does it quite well with my Alcatel > Speed Touch USB DSL modem. Everywhere I look for info on this relating > to Linux, it says that I need a NIC. > > I say ridiculous! The issue of PPPoE has been discussed and its quite feasable to do. The main reason that it hasn't been done is because most of the developers are European where PPPoA is the preferred encapsulation of the ISP's so we just can't test PPPoE code. There are two solutions to this problem, either a developer from the other side of the pond writes the code or someone gives the european developers shell access to a box with a working PPPoE setup to test against. I'm sure a number of us would volenteer to write the code if someone asked nicely :-) > > Look at it this way! Bell Canada's Sympatico High Speed DSL service > costs $28 US for unlimited access, and the majority of their customers > all choose the USB non-Ethernet card option. I'd say they have, at least > 2 or 3 million subscribers (and growing). As you can see, that's a lot > of potential Linux users who are stuck on Windoze and will NOT switch > over if they can't even access the net. Do you know how frustraing it is > to be captivated by KDE3 and/or Enlightenment, but can't even get on the > net? I hate this dual booting crap! I want to use Linux full time. Well a couple of points: 1. With open source your not impotent - if a problem bugs you enough your quite welcome to fix it yourself. 2. We are all volenteers, demanding something *must* be done while not helping doesn't tend to win over people to your cause. 3. *I* don't care if people want stick with Windows. If it works for them fine. If they want Linux support but can't/won't contribute themselves they should lobby their ISP. > I say its high time this silly scenario comes to a close. > > Thanks for listening and I hope you also find a "reliable" solution. The correct phrase to use in this situation is:"I hope together we can find a solution". Whilst we are unpaid volenteers you are not a customer, just a benificary of our aulturism. > PS--> I would gladly contribute in writing a well-thought out > step-by-step HowTo if a RELIABLE solution can be obtained. Thats great. But lets get the code working first... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bennee.com/~alex/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se d�sinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
