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-------------------------------------------------- From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7...@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:25 AM To: "Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations" <spooks@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Spooks] WHY > Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from > this list > > "Just don't give him information that could threaten national security and > move on..." > > If we have the information, it's not a secret. > > Kurt Kurt, This is not correct, for sure not in the legal sense. Publication or public knowledge does not denote declassification. Example, if a person with a security clearance has a classified document that says "XYZZY is the magic word" and someone publishes in Aviation Leak and Spy Technology "XYZZY is the magic word", the person with authorized access still has to treat the information as classified, it is still officially classified. He / she can not confirm the information to anyone who does not have the proper level of clearance and the proper need to know, even though it might have been splashed on page one, above the fold, of a major newspaper. And depending on how Aviation Leak and Spy Technology acquired the information they may face prosecution for distributing it. If people who are not authorized to access a piece of classified information have knowledge of the information the information still may be classified. Often a leakage of classified information can be quantified, and the spread of that leak reduced or eliminated. Another example, and one that is real World. I rather strongly suspect that the military list certain frequencies and their usage as "Classified". I mean, any official list you see that specific frequency and usage included on may carry some kind of classification, even if only "For Official Use Only". We, as listeners, might hear the traffic and correctly deduce the usage / net / application of the communications. We now have legal access to "classified", but unconfirmed, information. It can still be secret and known by "others", this is, from a security consideration, an undesirable state, but not an impossible one. This raises some interesting questions. If you have what you suspect to be classified information are you in violation of any codes by distributing it? For sure this is going to vary from country to country. In some places yes and others no. I suspect that in the US as long as you do not know, for a fact, that the information is classified you are probably good to go. If you do suspect, or know, then it is a lot more questionable. T! ______________________________________________________________ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html