Hi Ron,

On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 12:49, Ron Bonica <rbon...@juniper.net> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> As the header chain (including encapsulations) get longer, the packet becomes 
> less ASIC friendly.
>
> Allocating a new Next Header value for Ethernet may be less painful than 
> introducing a new encapsulation.
>

That's fair.

I think sometimes it may not be clear what to optimise for and when.

To me SR seems to be both about replacing MPLS for packet forwarding
across the network, and also possibly performing host functions on a
packet as it traverses the network, meaning processing the contents of
packets past the IP header at various hops during the packet's trip.

I've got used to thinking of the decapsulation of packets at a tunnel
end-point as being host processing because it is processing the packet
beyond the outer IP header, and that then suggests to me to try to be
general if possible rather than optimise for one or a small set of
cases.

Regards,
Mark.


>                                                        Ron
>
>
>
> Juniper Internal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 9:37 PM
> > To: Xiejingrong <xiejingr...@huawei.com>
> > Cc: Tom Herbert <t...@herbertland.com>; Ron Bonica
> > <rbon...@juniper.net>; SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>; 6man
> > <i...@ietf.org>
> > Subject: Re: [spring] SRv6 Network Programming: ENH = 59
> >
> > On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 11:15, Xiejingrong <xiejingr...@huawei.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 97 is a choice but it has 2 bytes wasting.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It seems strange to me that as bandwidth is constantly getting cheaper, 
> > people
> > seem to be trying harder and harder to use less of it.
> > The trade-off is increased code complexity and CPU at each of the hops at 
> > the
> > end of the links.
> >
> > It is has been my understanding that bandwidth has been getting cheaper
> > faster than CPU for quite a number of years, has that flipped around?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jingrong
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Herbert
> > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 9:11 AM
> > > To: Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> > > Cc: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>; 6man <i...@ietf.org>
> > > Subject: Re: SRv6 Network Programming: ENH = 59
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 5, 2019, 5:47 PM Ron Bonica
> > <rbonica=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > According to Section 4.4 of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-00,
> > when processing the End.DX2 SID, the Next Header must be equal to 59.
> > Otherwise, the packet will be dropped.
> > >
> > > In the words of the draft, "We conveniently reuse the next-header value 59
> > allocated to IPv6 No Next Header [RFC8200].  When the SID corresponds to
> > function End.DX2 and the Next-Header value is 59, we know that an Ethernet
> > frame is in the payload without any further header."
> > >
> > > According to Section 4.7 RFC 8200, " The value 59 in the Next Header 
> > > field of
> > an IPv6 header or any  extension header indicates that there is nothing
> > following that header.  If the Payload Length field of the IPv6 header 
> > indicates
> > the presence of octets past the end of a header whose Next Header field
> > contains 59, those octets must be ignored and passed on unchanged if the
> > packet is forwarded."
> > >
> > > Does the WG think that it is a good idea to reuse the Next Header value 
> > > 59?
> > Or would it be better to allocate a new Next Header value that represents
> > Ethernet?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There's already ETHERIP number (97). Why not use that?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                                                           Ron
> > >
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