Aha, more information.... Lets see 1,231 sf
50 X 110 = 5,500 sf 1231/5500 = 22% Mixed Use NFPA-13 Next Question John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Residential? Let's put this in perspective: One 535 SF classroom One 312 SF Conf room One 160 SF Office Two 106 SF offices One 118 SF Laundry That's substantially less than run of the mill hotel back of house. Are the business offices of a hotel, not to mention their conference rooms, incidental to the running of a hotel? Commercial laundries, not a 7' x 17' cubby. glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams - work Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Residential? To me this sounds like a 13 system. Incidental is defined as "of a minor, casual or subordinate nature". I'm not sure that offices and classrooms fall under that category for an otherwise residential occupancy since that could stand on their own. My thought is that an incidental occupancy (such as an office or laundry room for a hotel) is one that could not reasonably exist without the primary (residential). I vote for mixed use, hence 13. At 04:05 PM 2/9/2007, you wrote: >We have a project in which the majority of the building is dorm rooms; >2nd flr (top) is all dorms, with a few more dorm rooms and a few classrooms >and offices on the first floor. Small basement is mechanical only. >Entire building footprint is a whopping > >The classrooms are for the use of the students that reside in the dorm; >Offices for faculty that teach there. > >Overall concept is suburban campus college has this building in the city for >students to study government and urban life. So the non-residential areas >are incidental to the residential nature of the building. > >The Architect has deemed the building A3 for the first floor, R2 on 2nd >floor. Naturally the one hour separation is at the first floor ceiling. > >If this sounds a little strange, at least it's not #13TR, elderly housing >over tire storage:) This IS located in a locale where 13d tank/pumps feed 3 >story office buildings, with poly tanks located in restaurant storage area, >and CPVC in OH2. Sure, that will make the judge understand ? > >Anyway, would % of use and other uses being for the occupants make this look >#13R to any of you? > >George Church >Rowe Sprinkler > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
