Sorry I think we're getting a bit off track. The main 80k is a II-B basic steel building. The 11K is a basic wood frame pole barn V-B. It's not archaic materials. The walls, structure, etc. have 0 rating. It does look like it complies with table 602 of the IBC if it were built today. II-B and V-B have a rating of exterior walls requirement of 0 hours for 10'-30'.
But this does lead to a semantics question in the water supply. If it is a common sense two buildings (i.e. most people would call it 2 if shown a picture) vs. a code calling it one building even though there is no physical connection does it make a difference in whether one can jump the gap with a single system in the two buildings. What I'm really focusing on is the requirements for water supplies in campus type environments in light of potentially new issues in 13 which either don't exist and I remember some other issue wrong or I can't find them. And for what it's worth neither are likely candidates for ever being sold off to separate owners. The II-B, V-B is an integrated manufacturing company. The pump buildings are a county govt complex. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Water supplies Chris, Aside from the issue of structural integrity (a requirement for a fire wall) take a look at the publication "Guidelines for determining fire resistance ratings of building elements". Part II of that publication provides determination methods for archaic materials. John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official Building Inspector New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Water supplies When it's not fully involved with fire sure that's adequate. As an existing condition I don't know. It's been that way for 15 years. The FM left it as a separate issue in the analysis for sprinklers in the new addition. The walls are unrated but there are no openings. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Water supplies is 15ft adequate separation to consider them separate buildings? Roland On Mar 21, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Chris Cahill wrote: > > First building is 80,000 sq. ft. metal working facility with a > detached 11,000 sq. ft. cold storage pole barn 15' apart. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
