Except when a fitting let's loose or the pipe splits with air you have
an explosion as the entire volume of compressed gas decompresses
outward into the lower pressure atmosphere. When a liquid decompresses
you have the pressure put against the end of the column rapidly
diissapate and the large volume of non-compressable liquid just
splurts (splurt: kinda like slobbering). Broken pieces are not
propelled away from the rupture like bullets.


On 4/4/07, Chris Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PSI is PSI no matter what your dealing with.


Thank you,

Chris Brown
Fire Protection Designer, Poole Fire Protection
Office: 913.829.8650   Direct: 913.747.2056   Cell: 913.208.3600   Fax:
913.829.8690


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Hydrostatic vs. Pneumatic Testing

200psi of air pressure is not the same as 200psi of water pressure due
to the compressibility of air versus water.   We never did more than
50psi for an air test for sensitive areas.  If it passed the air test at
50# we never had any issues with the 200# water test.


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lg.com




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray
Schmid
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hydrostatic vs. Pneumatic Testing

I have a client that needs to have a hydro performed for a modified PA
system over a live data center and they are naturally concerned with
conducting a traditional hydro above $500M worth of servers.  The 40#
air test has been successfully completed and they are questioning why a
similar test with air at a higher pressure could not be done as an
alternative to a hydro.  Assuming a constant temperature throughout the
test, why would a 200 psi test using air not be equivalent to the
traditional hydro that uses water?  It seems the requirement for a hydro
is as old as piping itself, but all I can tell them at this point is
that the standard requires a 200# test with water.  Not a very technical
justification.  Are there tangible benefits to pressure testing the
system with water that would not be realized with a pneumatic test?



Ray Schmid, P.E.

Principal

Koffel Associates, Inc.

410-750-2246

www.koffel.com <http://www.koffel.com/>





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