Chris,

Tsk tsk tsk, my Kiwi friend!

You are forgetting that we export a very large quantity of wine to USA and
mostly in plasic "bladders" in cardboard cartons, 1l to 5l (depending on
quality you know) hence the name "Chateau du Cardboard NV"

Cheers
Jack

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Mak
Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 12:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Wine store

Any store selling wine in plastic bottles doesn't deserve sprinklers.
Save the investment to protect stores selling wine in glass bottles.

I haven't visited the States now for a few years, but surely, the bulk
of your fine wine is still in glass bottles?  Plastic - yuk.

Regards

Chris Mak
New Zealand


-----Original Message-----
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Williams - work
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re[2]: Wine store

Hey Charles, I think the worm in the bottom has the MSDS


At 02:37 PM 5/29/2007, you wrote:
>Hello Roland,
>
>The only time I looked for a MSDS Sheet was on the inside of the bottom

>of the bottle....  THEN I started learning Sprinkler Design and 
>switched to hard liquor.....  Those bottles do not have em on the 
>inside of the bottom either...
>
>Tuesday, May 29, 2007, 10:21:10 AM, you wrote:
>
> > I would question whether the alcohol content was high enough to be 
> > an issue.  If this were storage (in order to sidestep the mercantile

> > issue), what commodity would plastic bottles with wine be?  Liquor 
> > (less than 100 proof) in a plastic or glass bottle is a class IV 
> > whereas noncombustible liquids in a plastic bottle is a class I.
> > Liquor by definition is a distilled verses a fermented beverage. It 
> > has a much higher alcohol content (starting around 30%) whereas a 
> > white is typically around 8% and a better red can be 14%.  Must 
> > confess I have never looked for an MSDS sheet on wine - lol.
>
> > Roland
>
> > On May 25, 2007, at 3:04 PM, A.P.Silva wrote:
>
> >> Thanks, that's my feeling too, but thought wouldn't hurt to ask the

> >> forum.
> >> The reason for asking was most bottles nowadays are plastic, and if

> >> they break due to a fire, the alcohol could contribute to the fuel 
> >> load more than clothing and jewelry.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd

> >> Williams
> >> - work
> >> Sent: May 25, 2007 3:31 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Wine store
> >>
> >> I would still be classified as retail, even though is it probably 
> >> less hazardous than a clothing store in a mall, which would also be

> >> OH2. I asked a similar question re a jewelry store a while back and

> >> got my proverbial butt handed to me.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 05:19 PM 5/25/2007, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Would a wine store be OH 2? Anyone done one lately or recollect 
> >>> from the past?
> >>>
> >>> Tony
> >>>
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