Do what you feel is best in your heart and sleep well at night. But use every opportunity to educate those AHJ's and the smarter they get the easier it will be for you. Fitters and designers are not the only one's we train.

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Whitfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: hand car wash


Thom,

Meeting with the AHJ to work this out would certainly be the best solution.
The unfortunate fact is that the majority of the AHJ's in Greg's area
(northwest Florida) know very little about the code when it comes to fire
sprinklers.  It is difficult to discuss these kinds of issues when much of
their decision making is based on what they want or feel instead of what the
codes and standards actually say.  I'm sure it is a familiar situation to
many on the forum in all areas of the country.

This is why the forum is so necessary for many of us.  Like it or not, we
end up having to ask questions, get the most info and insight available, and
then do the best that we can to follow the right path.

Cliff Whitfield
Fire Design, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: hand car wash

Non-combustible Porte chiere's don't require protection, Non-combustible
projections and covered walkways not used for storage don't require
protection, seems like a visit with the AHJ could resolve the fact that its
"attached", and falls somewhere in between those two.

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg McGahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: hand car wash


Situation:

Non combustible overhang with nothing underneath it. It will only be
used to hand wash cars.

2 questions:  Protection required?
What hazard?

Greg

Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852

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