I agree. There is a big difference in fire load between a theatrical stage
(with the associated lights, curtains and props) and a stage or platform
(however way you call it) found in a school gym or church. 

The problem is terminology. The architect generally names the building
spaces, and quite often all raised floors are termed stages. Then NFPA
requires OH2 for stages, without giving any definitions.

I designed a sprinkler system for a school. A fire originated in a fan room
next to the gym and destroyed the entire school. NFPA conducted a fire
investigation and produced a report authored by their Chief Fire
Investigator. Under the subsection "Code Analysis" the NFPA report said the
following: "the area over the stage where the fire was first observed would
have been required to be provided with a sprinkler density designed to an
ordinary Hazard 2 classification. The sprinkler system was designed for a
light hazard occupancy." This is from the NFPA Chief Fire Investigator.

The issues are more complicated. The contract specifications issued by the
mechanical consultant (I was not the engineer on record) specified light
hazard throughout the school "including mechanical rooms and all occupied
spaces" to justify the limited water supply (fire pump and water storage
tanks sized for light hazard, no municipal supply). I still designed the
mech. rooms and other areas requiring OH design for an OH occupancy. But I
did not design the gym area near the "stage" for OH. I won't mention the
other issues as it is going off topic.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: November 13, 2007 10:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: All the world's a stage

Okay, seriously.

A platform is a raised surface, that may be slab-on-grade, or framed up from
a structural floor assembly.   Generally, the ceiling over it is the same
one that is above the seating/assembly areas of the larger room in which the
platform is located.

A stage has a proscenium that separates the back of house space from the
seating/assembly space.  Also generally, it has no suspended ceiling or a
much higher ceiling over it, known in the theater biz as "bag and flag"
space.  Curtains, lighting, set pieces, etc., etc. are potentially
stored/suspended in this space and it creates a unique and elevated fire
load.  Hence, stages are protected for Ordinary Hazard and assembly areas
(and platforms) for Light.   There is also a requirement that either the
stage curtain be fire-rated, or that a "fire-curtain" assembly be provided,
or that a water curtain or deluge system be provided at the proscenium to
protect the separation between a legitimate "stage" and the A-group.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Knutson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: All the worlds a stage

Forum Members,

 

What's the difference between a platform and a stage? I'm looking at a
charter school auditorium/gym. The stage is a platform elevated 1'-6" above
the concrete slab. There is ACT ceiling at 20 ft and a 12ft x 40ft opening
to the auditorium. There doesn't appear to be room for drop scenery like in
a professional theatre stage. 

 

Class III standpipes and OH group II seem excessive for this application. I
fear what might happen if a 90 lb drama student decides to mess with 1½"
fire hose with 100psi raging behind it.

 

I've found some info in NFPA 101 but I still confused on the stage and
platform definitions.

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Thanks,

 

Randy Knutson

Shilo Automatic Sprinkler, Inc.

 

P.S.

 

Bob I'm not ignoring you.

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