Some time back, I posted asking for folks to help provide some questions
that "potential clients" could ask when shopping for a sprinkler service
provider. The hope was that our local business community will use these
questions to figure out why one contractor would have a higher bid price
versus the fly by night low bid contractor who then starts adding costs
on when we reject the confidence test because it's incomplete.

I unfortunately didn't get any responses or suggestions initially. So,
I'm posting the questions that I was able to come up with in my little
brain with hopes that some of you folks in the industry can set me
straight (or maybe this will help generate better or cleaner questions).

I will gladly provide links to the final versions once I get this
wrapped up but in the meantime, if you have any further comments,
suggestions, ideas, please send them back to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
This is still a draft version.......

Thanks in Advance,

David M. Smith, Deputy Fire Marshal
Vancouver Fire Department, Fire Marshal's Office
900 W. Evergreen Blvd.
Vancouver, WA 98660
360-759-4408 Phone
360-418-5619 Pager
 
 

Questions to Ask Potential Service Providers

1)       May I see proof that your company has all applicable state,
county and city licenses? Such as: 

a.       State of Washington UBI number, City of Vancouver Business
License

b.       Professional liability and/or errors & omissions insurance 

c.       Licensed contractor as issued by WA Labor & Industries and
State Fire Marshal's Office 

2)       What is the minimum level of certification or training for
employees that will be inspecting/testing or maintaining my system? Do
they carry proof of certification or employee identification cards
(wallet cards) that I can verify while they are on site? Minimum and
recommended are:

a.       Certified by the WA State Fire Marshal's Office as an
Inspection Testing Technician (ITT Level)

b.       National Institute for Certification in Engineering
Technologies Level II - Inspection, Testing and Maintenance for Fire
Sprinkler Systems

c.       Inspection, testing and maintenance on fire pumps, pre-action,
deluge type or foam based sprinkler systems requires additional training
and experience. Ask if employees are factory trained and certified by
the specific manufacturer for any of the equipment tested on the
property

d.       A current WA journeyman electrical (or limited energy) license
for persons 'testing' electrical control circuits that may be part of
the water flow monitoring valves, FACP, fire pump, pre-action, deluge or
foam systems is required by WA State Department of Labor & Industries

3)       Are you willing to name my business/property as an additional
insured on the commercial general liability policy, and be shown as an
additional insured, not as a certificate holder?

4)       Given the installation of new or repair/replacement of certain
fire sprinkler equipment requires a permit from the City of Vancouver
Development Review Services, are the permit fees or charges included in
your contract price (i.e. adding a sprinkler head under a roll up garage
door)? 

5)       Will you provide me with a written quotation that details:

a.       Applicable equipment manufacturer's warranties

b.       Replacement costs for damaged, non-functioning or recalled
equipment (i.e. gaskets, etc.)

c.       Additional service fees for standard or emergency maintenance

d.       Minimum service time or trip charges for required testing or
emergency maintenance

e.       Applicable service and labor warranties 

f.         Pricing based on term of the contract (1 year, 2 years, 3
years, etc.) and self-renewal intervals

g.       Time (in hours) expected it will take your firm to complete the
inspection and testing of system

h.       Any additional recurring fees 

i.         Runner service costs for responding to an alarm or water flow
situation, and who responds to signals and how long will it take for a
qualified technician to arrive at my property to fix the problem

j.         How quickly service calls can be performed

6)       Will you provide any necessary training on required weekly or
monthly inspections to my staff on our sprinkler system as part of the
contract price? 

7)       Do you guarantee customer satisfaction and, if I am
dissatisfied with your service, am I able to terminate my contract with
no obligation?

8)       Will I receive a pro-rated refund?  What are the cancellation
options?

9)       Will your technician leave me a copy of an unalterable field
report upon completion of the testing?

10)   If parts of my sprinkler system are needed for repairs or to keep
my system in service, how long will it take you to obtain the parts and
replace them? 

11)   Are your inspectors qualified to make repairs at the time
deficiencies are found or will you need to send another employee back?
How long will it take to schedule a return visit to make the repairs?

12)   The fire code requires that the Fire Marshals Office be notified
when a system is not functioning, will your firm contact them on my
behalf with a description of the problem and your correction plan or
will I need to do it? Does your firm utilize a "tag out" procedure for
identifying systems that are inoperable?

13)   If my fire alarm and/or sprinkler system becomes inoperable, will
your company provide and maintain the necessary fire watch as required
by the fire code? What would be the hourly rate we would be charged for
that? 

14)   The Fire Marshals Office requires owners to maintain copies of
test reports onsite and contractors to submit copies of the annual test
reports to their office for review. Are you willing to leave a copy
onsite and provide them with copies of all test reports on my behalf as
testing is completed? 




Fire Sprinkler Equipment Questions

The following questions are more specific and will help you identify the
portions of the system that will be tested by the contractor as well as
information they will provide on the test report. Please see PIB # 901
and 912 for a detailed description of the frequency and
procedure/protocol for conducting these tests. A portion of the
questions below may or may not be applicable to your particular
facility.

15)   What is the Contractor's Test and Materials Certificate and why
does NFPA 25 require I provide it to you prior to conducting any testing
or maintenance work? What should I do if I have not kept the original or
updated copy on file?

16)   Will you need a copy of "as-built" or record drawings of my
facility to ensure a comprehensive maintenance program is established? 

17)   I don't have a copy of the manufacturer's literature or record
drawings as required by NFPA 25 and the local AHJ. Do you really need
them and how do you suggest we solve this deficiency?

18)   I don't have a copy of NFPA 25, am I supposed to have one
available?

19)   I'm unable to produce records that the specified 5 year interval
testing has been done and the date(s) it was last completed. What will
happen if you mark that down on your report as needing to be completed
at this time? Will it cost me additional money for your service after
the Fire Marshal's Office rejects the test report as incomplete without
that record available?

20)   Do your technicians have a copy of applicable fire codes and
installation/maintenance standards and can they explain to me what's
required now versus when the system was installed? 

21)   What is the difference between a visual inspection versus a
comprehensive inspection and testing program? Does your pricing include
just a visual inspection or a comprehensive program in full accordance
with NFPA 25?

22)   The submission of a system test report showing a deficiency will
result in the fire department coming out to do an on-site evaluation of
the problem. If valid, this will result in an additional inspection fee
from the City of Vancouver. If deficiencies are found, will you correct
them automatically before submitting the test report to the fire
department so the information submitted identifies that all problems
found have been repaired in order to save me the additional inspection
fee?

23)   Will your inspectors be verifying that my current storage
conditions are satisfactory for the current sprinkler system so I don't
get issued a Correction Notice by the fire department's inspectors
during their inspection for having inadequate protection based on my
storage arrangement?

24)   Does it matter that we've changed the layout of our building by
adding or removing a few walls during our last space improvement since
our last system inspection? 

25)   Will the technician testing the supervision of control circuits
(water flow alarms, fire pump, etc.) be a licensed electrician and
possess the applicable Vancouver Fire Marshal's Endorsement for working
on electrical circuits? If not, will you be able to coordinate having a
qualified person on site at the time of your inspection to test all of
the systems, including electrical components at once?

26)   Will the individuals inspecting my property be evaluating my
system with regards to the following items or just making sure the
system is 'visually installed and present'?

a.       Sprinkler heads installed are properly spaced (i.e. no
obstructions or improperly spaced heads)

b.       Sprinkler heads or other equipment installed is not part of any
type of product recall and if they are will advised accordingly so that
they can be replaced in accordance with the fire code

c.       Sprinkler system is adequate for particular hazard or current
storage arrangements of our facility

                                                               i.
Design density is adequate for high piled storage arrangement

                                                             ii.
Hazardous material quantities within sprinklered area are within fire
code requirements

d.       All sprinkler riser hydraulic design, Sprinkler Riser Room,
Fire Department Connection signage, etc., is in place and meets the fire
code requirements

e.       Pressure gauges are properly calibrated or replaced accordingly

Standpipes

1.      Does my building/facility have standpipes? If so, what kind?
(wet, dry, combination)
2.      NFPA 25, Section 6.3.1.1 requires that a flow test be conducted
every 5 years. How does your company conduct flow tests in standpipes?
Where will the water source come from and what will the flow rate need
to be? 
3.      Will I have to pay to rent a water meter if you connect a hose
to a fire hydrant or is the water usage costs included in the price
quote?
4.      Does your basic inspection quote include the rental fee of a
large pump if necessary or the hiring of off-duty fire department
personnel to achieve the proper water flow rate at roof level of our
high-rise building?
5.      Will your test report indicate the water source used during the
test and if necessary, the type of pump?
6.      Will your test report clearly identify the location that the
flow tests were conducted so that the Vancouver Fire Department will
know it was the hydraulically most remote segment to be tested?
7.      Does our standpipe include any type of Pressure Reducing Valve
(PRV)? Will your report indicate which floors or areas these PRV's are
located and the pressure the PRV's are set at?
8.      How do you verify that these are all set at the proper operating
pressure that meet the Vancouver Fire Department's operating guidelines?
(Failure to do this could result in inadequate water pressure in
firefighter hose lines in the event of a fire)

 

Foam Systems

1.      Please describe the type of foam system within my facility and
the required testing needed (hydrostatic testing of tanks, pump, etc.)
2.      NFPA 25 requires that the fire department be notified when
testing is done on a foam system. Will you coordinate that notification
on my behalf?
3.      Will your technician be taking a sample of foam during a full
flow test to verify the foam-water concentration?
4.      What method will be used to verify the concentration for the
foam-water solution?
5.      Will your company obtain a sample of the foam concentrate for
testing? Will your company test the foam concentrate or will that be
done offsite? If offsite, who does the testing and is that cost included
in your proposal.
6.      Will the technicians confirm that the piping and discharge
devices are listed for use as a complete system?
7.      Will the technicians verify that there is an adequate drainage
area?
8.      What environmental issues might arise with the discharge of foam
during the testing and how can that be mitigated to prevent problems
with the water/environmental agencies? Do I need to notify any other
agencies that foam will be produced on-site and possibly discharged into
the sewer or river system? 
9.      Will your technicians be confirming that the water supply in my
facility is adequate for the foam system? 
10.     Is my facility equipped with open spray devices and if so, will
you be verifying the spray discharge pattern every year as part of the
contract price? If this interrupts our daily operations, can you do this
at an off-peak time for the same fee?

 

Fire Pumps

 This is the next section I'm working on.......looking for
help/suggestions.

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