Steve, I think you are "cross-threading" here. There are 2 different questions going on this morning on the forum. But you do make some very good points!
Cliff Whitfield, SET Fire Design, Inc .-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Area of Reduction 11.2.3 Not necessarily - remember his question is predicated by the application of the DOD standards, not NFPA 13. The UFC's supersede those listings in many cases and I would check with the AHJ in any case; we have had the concealed space sprinklers shot down by NAVFAC in the past. Unfortunately, a lot of it comes down to which branch you're working with and in which region. Bill's suggestion regarding the room application (I think you meant largest, not smallest?) is also not generally accepted and isn't mentioned in the UFC's that I'm aware of. And don't forget to arbitrarily double your hose stream allowance ... Steve Leyton Protection Design & Consulting -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Vance Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Area of Reduction 11.2.3 Bobby, If the area in the floor/ceiling space is a "horizontal combustible conceled space" 36" of less in height (and I presume they are), you must use a LISTED sprinkler for this space and abide by all requirements of the sprinkler's listings, including appropriate compartmentalization. If the area is more than 36" in height then you can utilize the area reduction allowances as long as you meet all of the conditions per NFPA-13, as previously indicated by Matthew. Ray Vance Chief Engineering Tech. Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc. www.waynefire.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Area of Reduction 11.2.3 Yes as far as I see. As long as all conditions are met, there are no other restrictions mentioned. R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Living Water Fire Protection, LLC. 1160 McKenzie Rd. PO Box 877 Cantonment, FL. 32533 850-937-1850 Voice 850-937-1852 Facsimile [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Bobby Gillett ----- >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:02 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: Area of Reduction 11.2.3 ----- > ----- >We have a 4 story building with mercantile on the 1st ----- >floor and residential living on the top 3 floors (Light ----- >Hazard). This is wood construction and we have to put ----- >sprinklers in between the ceiling and floor space. Can ----- >the area of reduction be taken in the remote area for ----- >the sprinklers between floors? ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- >Bobby Gillett ----- > ----- >Project Manager ----- > ----- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- > ----- >(731)-424-0130 ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
