Douglas, You can go on with this. Why in God's name would you want that filthy toilet and i's associated plumbing in your house. Electricity is dangerous, we use it to execute people, so out with the wiring. I'm sure breathing gypsum dust isn't good for you so no more sheetrock. And don't get me started on all the building materials containing formaldehyde, a know poison. Then there's the refrigerator. Frostbite if you're not careful. How about forced air heaters that not only warm up the bacteria floating about but distribute them throughout your house. Epilepsy from fluorescent lights? And didn't we have both a radon problem and an electromagnetic field issues? Paint and stains can't possibly be good if you judge by the odors. Petroleum products on the roof and glass full of silicas. And di-hydrogen oxide is well known to cause death when breathed in even small quantities. No more water within human habitation of any kind. In fact we should all be running around naked in the woods in a completely natural state. That's about as safe as it gets except for predators, exposure, disease. etc. Have a nice weekend.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:26 PM, douglas hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being as I am just a lowly, ignorant contractor, I do not meet the > requirements to be a member of ICC. Therefore my proposal to do away with > all water pipe in an effort to stop cancer and mold was not accepted. I am > considering joining the AHB so my proposal will be accepted. > > Douglas Hicks > General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Autry, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:47 AM > Subject: RE: From the NAHB Newsletter > > > You should see the "fight" going on at the IIC's website forum. > > In case you didn't know; residential sprinkler systems are now going to > cause mold to grow in your home and the pipe will give you cancer. > > > David Autry > Plans Examiner > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > 246 S. 14th Street > Lincoln, NE 68508 > 402-471-9659 > 402-471-3118 fax > www.sfm.ne.gov > > ** Note new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Leyton > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: FW: From the NAHB Newsletter > > > > Of interest, sent by the NAHB yesterday: > > > > Fire Official Surge Sweeps Sprinkler Mandate to Victory > > Fire sprinkler mandates will be part of the 2009 International > Residential Code and will be required in all one- and two-family homes > and townhouses that build to the code as of Jan. 1, 2011. > > The sudden - and controversial - arrival on Saturday of 900 fire > officials eligible to vote at the <http://www.iccsafe.org/> > International Code Council's final action hearings in Minneapolis > swelled the number of sprinkler proponents and the measure was approved > by a vote of 1,283 to 470 on Sunday morning. > > In other business, voting members disapproved the so-called "30% > Solution" from a coalition of insulation and window manufacturers that > would have significantly revised the International Energy Conservation > Code. The votes were split on a number of wall bracing proposals. > > About 1,200 voting devices were turned in immediately after the > residential fire sprinkler mandate was approved, suggesting that most of > the proponents left immediately after the vote was taken. > > "We welcome the insight and experience that fire officials bring to the > code development process because our model codes are focused on life > safety issues," said James "Andy" Anderson, chair of the NAHB > Construction, Codes and Standards Committee. > > "However, it seems clear that these particular officials were focused on > one issue only - residential fire sprinkler mandates - without any > benefit of perspective regarding how such mandates jibe with the > hundreds of other code proposals considered at this hearing. That's > unfortunate, because such reasoned discussion is what the model code > process was designed to accomplish." > > The residential fire sprinkler mandates will provide a sizable financial > boon for the fire sprinkler manufacturing industry, which, like NAHB, > helped provide funding for building officials to attend the hearings. > > In 2005, when there were about 1.65 million new homes constructed at an > average 2,340 square feet, sprinkler manufacturers would have reaped > about $5.8 billion in revenue, based on average sprinkler costs of $1.50 > per square foot, had the sprinkler requirement been in effect. > > NAHB had identified several concerns over residential fire sprinkler > systems - among them, questioning whether most home owners are prepared > to perform the maintenance required to ensure that the sprinklers remain > operational. > > Builders also cited the potential for pipes installed in attics to > freeze in colder climates and they said that the sprinklers can be > discharged accidentally, with damaging results. In areas served by wells > or where water is scarce, the availability of an adequate water supply > is another possible problem. > > NAHB pointed to several existing code requirements that have contributed > to a significant decline in fire-related deaths and injuries over the > past 30 years. > > The most effective improvement has been the introduction of hard-wired > interconnected smoke alarms, which the code requires to be installed in > every bedroom and on every floor. <http://www.nfpa.org/> National Fire > Protection Association reports conclude that about 890 fatalities could > be avoided each year if every home had at least one working smoke alarm. > > Both the <http://www.firesprinkler.org/training/index.html> American > Fire Sprinkler Association and the <http://www.nfsa.org/> National Fire > Sprinkler Association, two sprinkler industry trade groups, offer > training programs for residential sprinkler installation and > certification. Because there is only a limited number of subcontractors > who are certified, the sprinkler requirement will appear in the 2009 > International Residential Code but not take effect until 2011, giving > the industry three years to prepare. > > In other final hearing action: > > * About 15 proposals relating to wall bracing were also debated > during the Final Action Hearings. A new independent table for wind > bracing was approved with modifications proposed by the ICC Ad Hoc > Committee on Wall Bracing working with NAHB, the NAHB Research Center > and the Foam Sheathing Coalition. > > The new provisions will generally preserve traditional bracing amounts > for typical one- and two-story dwellings in most of the country. Bracing > amounts will increase for three-story homes, homes with large open plans > and homes built in high-wind areas. > > Two NAHB proposals to restore the scope limit for the structural > provisions of the IRC to 110 mph in hurricane-prone regions were > defeated. The <http://www.disastersafety.org/> Institute for Business > and Home Safety spoke against the proposals, primarily due to the defeat > of a compromise proposal on wind uplift that had been worked out with > NAHB and others. > > The defeat on the scope limit came despite significant, yet > cost-effective improvements to the wind resistance of dwellings > (including the changes in wall bracing) that will go into effect with > the 2009 IRC. > * In a victory for cost-effective energy efficiency solutions, the > group of IECC proposals nicknamed the 30% Solution was defeated by a > vote of 90 to 50. After the package of proposals was defeated, voting > members heard testimony on each individual proposal for additional > voting. Details will be available in the upcoming Oct. 6 issue of > Nation's Building News. > > > For more information, e-mail <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Calli Schmidt > at NAHB, or call her at 800-368-5242 x8132. > > > > > > Terri Simmons Leyton > > PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING > > 8849-B Complex Drive > > San Diego, CA 92123 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ph: 858-751-2930 - ext. 101 > > Fax: 858-751-2933 > > Cell: 619-871-8450 > > "Once every man, woman and child realizes and accepts in daily life the > responsibility for simple fire prevention measures, death, injury and > destruction by fire will be substantially reduced." 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