So we should buy stock in Noble?
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Alternate to pitch?

The existing systems are all OH pipe schedule (with 3/4" pipe) and 
the vacant building would be LH. The other consideration is that they 
currently have two 1500 gpm pumps taking suction from a pond and part 
of the program would be to connect it to the public supply. 
Hydraulics and other factors would be taken into consideration, but 
the pitch issue is the most complicated. Besides, with 1,500,000 
sqsft of pipe network, we'd have to bring in anti-freeze in tank cars....



At 07:29 AM 9/30/2008, you wrote:
>When converting systems from wet to dry don't we also have to consider the
>hydraulics ?.
>
>Is it acceptable to simply convert them to antifreeze and retain the wet
>performance ?
>
>John Drucker
>Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ)
>New Jersey
>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dewayne
>Martinez
>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:20 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Alternate to pitch?
>
>What about pitching the lines and then heat tracing the mains and aux
>drains per 8.16.4.1.3 (13 02ed)?
>I don't think this is the best option but you were looking for
>alternative ideas.
>Dewayne
>
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>Williams - FPDC
>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:00 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Alternate to pitch?
>
>I visited a site the other day which consisted on 1.5 million sqft of
>vacant industrial buildings built in the 1950's. The cost to heat these
>building is astronomical and the owners are looking for cut costs. They
>would like to convert the 30 +/- systems from wet to dry.
>Obviously the biggest obstacle is pipe pitch. Some of the lines appear
>to pitch, but most lines and mains are flat (caveat: I have not gone in
>with a level to check it, but rod lengths looked the same). The lines
>look like they could be pitched, but the mains would be a challenge. Are
>there any alternatives out there? I don't know of any, but I didn't know
>if the collective mind had run across anything.
>
>Todd G. Williams, PE
>Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>Stonington, Connecticut
>www.fpdc.com
>860.535.2080
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