This is solid pile, Class IV commodity, known in the industry as a standard household "vault". They're usually about 7 feet tall and have a pallet-base for lifting and moving. We just did a Republic Van Lines franchise with 3-course storage, so we went with 23' of Class IV; density was .354/2000 or .27/3000. See IBC Table 2306.2 for pile height, area and maximum L/W dimensional data. Most companies that use this type of vault have policies and language in their contract about haz mats and flammable liquids. Some even require that the vaults only be packed by their own personnel, to help assure AHJ's that dangerous or prohibited materials aren't packed.
Steve Leyton Protection Design & Consulting San Diego, CA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FM Testing for Wooden Moving Crates Dave, This sounds like storage of household goods typically for military personnel on deployment. The FM in the jurisdiction where I encountered this required aisles and flue spaces although I forget what criterion he based the acceptable layout on nor the performance rating of the system. There was no foam. In this case he had to make a call, chose a criterion, and said that'll have to do. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Joe Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave, > > FM has not tested this, nor are they likely to. This is not a commodity, due > to the size, shielding, and variability of contents. Trying to protect > against a fire inside one of the boxes with ceiling sprinklers is like > trying to protect against a fire in a bedroom by putting sprinklers at the > roof in the attic. > > Joe > > Dave Phelan wrote: >> >> Good Friday Afternoon All, >> >> I'm looking for design info and perhaps an FM test report / data sheet for >> the warehouse storage of wooden moving crates. I have an existing >> warehouse >> where they store these 8 foot X 7 foot X 5 foot plywood crates of various >> items (all classes). The problem I see it is the crates are nested into >> rows and rows without any breaks, flue spaces, aisles, etc. There just >> doesnt seem to be any means by which water could penetrate the endless >> stacks, let alone reach the burning crate. >> >> The warehouse is reporting a .22 over 2000 sq. foot design area and is a >> wet >> system. Has anyone on the list come across this type of occupancy and how >> did you design for it? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Dave Phelan, >> An AHJ in NJ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3631 (20081121) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3631 (20081121) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
