We specialize and do houses in the Vancouver, Canada area.  Since 1994 they
have mandated a passive purge system here.  Basically we run a blazemaster
sprinkler system with the most remote toilet connected to the sprinklers.
The low flow to a toilet does not set off the sprinkler flow switch
regardless of the timing, we set our switches here to around 20 secs and do
not get false alarms.  We also use a dual check backflow (Watts 07S-rated
for fire protection) that is a backflow, but is not a testable device. 6 psi
loss at 40 gpm I believe.  We leave a cap for the toilet water supply and
the plumber hooks up when he installs the toilets.  A separate PRV is
required for the toilet supply line if the pressure is over 80 psi in the
sprinkler system. Plumbers typically use a Watts P60, 1/4" brass one on the
supply line.

 

This was started for a couple reasons that I am aware of.  One is the
elimination of a testable backflow requiring service every year.  In the old
days when we used a standalone backflow with valves, owners that were not
educated were worried of a total house flood, and would just shut the
sprinklers off.  The passive purge keeps the system water relatively fresh
and prevents them from turning the water off if they want to use the toilet
we have connected to. That toilet effectively monitors the valves in the
system and ensures they remain open.  

 

Still a stand alone sprinkler system and therefore installed by sprinkler
fitters.  I think this system has worked well here.

Thanks 

 

Dave Killey 

Fire Busters Inc

7887 114A St.,

Delta, B.C. V4C 5L8

 

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-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Watt

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:01 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: Residential systems in California

 

"To address the issue of backflow prevention, one discussion the

committee is having is the viability of placing a toilet on the

hydraulic end of the sprinkler system ..."

 

Great. Now I have to learn to install toilets. Will this function as the 

inspectors test too? Won't the alarm sound whenever you flush?

 

 What is the definition of Task Force anyhow?

 

 

Thomas

 

 

 

 

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