Todd; I agree with you that's why I said that you should politely inform them of your professional concerns as an expert, the issue of being sued is something that all of us in our different capacities in this business are exposed to constantly, whether the system fails or there is water damage after a save. We live with our installations well beyond the standard one-year guarantee. If you suspect that and authority is involved then, walk away (fast).
Eladio Alvarado Fire Protection Systems Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Time to file a grievance? The system may not be required, but there could very well be an AHJ involved. Also, the liability issue comes into play. If there is a fire, they are not going to sue the hot dog vendor. Considering I have initials after my name (that have nothing to do with gym class), the issue of implied liability will more than likely show up. "I should have known better". At 03:42 PM 3/5/2009, you wrote: >Mr. Williams, > >I've had similar situations, not necessarily with an EE, but I always >proceeded to install what they wanted without guarantee, approval and signed >everything under the pseudonym of MM (The mouse guy), the operating phrase >in your case is "The system is not required", thus no overseer authority. In >this case, and after a polite notification of what may or may not be wrong >with the design, I would install anything even if my local Hot Dog vendor >designed it. > > >Eladio Alvarado >Fire Protection Systems Inc. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Todd Williams >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:31 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Time to file a grievance? > >I got an e-mail this morning form a client for whom I was bidding a >design for a large house. The system is not required, but several >people think it is a good idea. However, cost is now becoming an >issue. The e-mail started as follows: "We consulted with an >electrical engineering firm that is called in by >the major insurance companies to investigate and trace the cause(s) >of residential and commercial fires. They came back to us with the >following sprinkler head installation sites (locations) for ......" > >So now EE firms are locating sprinklers? If I can gather enough info, >I may take this to the State. From what I have seen so far, this is >overtly wrong. > > >Todd G. Williams, PE >Fire Protection Design/Consulting >Stonington, Connecticut >www.fpdc.com >860.535.2080 >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
