I've also seen the conveyor be enclosed for 10' +/- on either side with
either QR heads or with something like a gem thermal control valve on each
side, each TCV feeding spkrs on BOTH sides of the wall.

Learn from history, if you have any aerosols present, Kmart (1981) Falls
twp, PA;  just over a mil SF of HPR whse burned to ground, water curtains at
fire wall openings didn't slow down aerosol rockets that made fire in
various quadrants of the building, joists came down 22 minutes after 1st
waterflow alarm. Water curtains have a place, that wasn't it.

As the old FM adage went: What has happened can happen. Great series of
examples of what happened in some big losses.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: rated wall opening

Only the window sprinklers.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: rated wall opening

Rated partition and rated wall assemblies are different in construction, but
in either case has anyone seen any calcs proving equivalency of a sprinkler
or sprinklers to a UL listed rated assembly?


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland
Huggins
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: rated wall opening

It's done all the time in fire partitions but a 3 hr wall is starting to
sound like a fire wall (which presents a much greater concern regarding
integrity etc.).  I'd proceed carefully.

Roland

On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Dewayne Martinez wrote:

> Is there any testing or criteria in regards to equivalent rating for a 
> water curtain or deluge curtain when protecting an opening in a rated 
> wall?  I have a 3' opening in a 3 hour wall and the architect is 
> trying to see if this can be accomplished with a water or deluge 
> curtain.
> Thanks,
> Dewayne
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