Cliff,

My customer is Triangle Fire Protection in Harrisburg. I called them and told 
them you would be making contact to get the heads approved. They told me that 
Dave Ciner is attending a meeting next week with the architect to make a final 
decision on which head to use on the facility. Best of luck on pursuading him.

Thanks for the help. If I can help you with anything please let me know. 

Brandon
Brandon Telford
Regional Sales Representative

Tyco / Fire & Building Products

Cell: 302.233.6684
Fax: 888.599.0725

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Apr 24 11:02:44 2009
Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler

Sounds like it ought to be treated more like a walkin box to me, despite the
lack of walk-in. Its still a big insulated panel box full of product.
Since hte product is pretty non-flam, maybe local AHJ, etc would bless
omitting

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler

George,

This is a dispensing unit and I doubt we'd dispense flammable liquids
from a similar device. Sprinklers in this case, I believe, would be
similar to sprinklering the inside of the entertainment center because
it's big or the dresser because it's a storage facility for textile
products in transit. That is, of course, if Tony's unit is just a big
refrigerator.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:02 AM, George Church <[email protected]> wrote:
> Would we consider different treatment if it were stocked with combustibles
> or flammable liquids?
>
> glc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler
>
> Tony,
>
> I like the idea that it may be a large appliance. We don't sprinkler
> the Coke machine or the Red Bull machine. Is this thing constructed on
> site or is it brought in as a unit. If the latter and since you can't
> walk in I'd call it an appliance and not a room (or space).
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:15 PM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Haven't seen the cooler. Someone asked me whether it should be
> sprinklered.
>> I will have to find out, but meanwhile I'm guessing it is stocked from
>> behind, the same as milk coolers in stores. Cooler inside or outside? Not
>> sure if I understand the question and its significance. Being a beer
> cooler,
>> it would be cooler inside than outside.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
> Williams
>> Sent: April 23, 2009 2:35 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>>
>> Is it stocked from the front or is there a walkway behind the pickers?
>> Cooler inside or outside?
>>
>>
>>
>> At 04:17 PM 4/23/2009, you wrote:
>>>An update as I've additional information.
>>>
>>>The cooler is 30' long 4' wide and 7' high. It has glass doors and open
>>>metal shelves. So you grab the beer closest to you and the next one
slides
>>>forward. When stocked full, there is hardly any empty space inside. You
>>>might see similar ones in stores that sell liqour. Does it have to be
>>>sprinklered?
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest
>> Wilson
>>>Sent: April 23, 2009 12:48 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: Walk-in cooler
>>>
>>>They can also shut down the cooler and use for general storage.
>>>I saw one after it burned. It was like a crushed can.
>>>Forest Wilson
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: "A.P.Silva" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:16:20
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly, though one difference may be in this case, the storage quantity
>> may
>>>be more. I think this is a grey area in NFPA. We provide heads in walk-in
>>>freezers and coolers. But what are the chances for a fire inside these?
>>>Haven't heard of any, but I suppose there could be an electrical fault
> that
>>>could start a fire.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
> Cahill
>>>Sent: April 23, 2009 11:02 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: RE: Walk-in cooler
>>>
>>>Doesn't sound much different than the milk cooler or pop cooler or the
>>>freezer isle in a grocery or Qwik Mart.  Never saw sprinklers in these.
>>>Argument is it's large appliance.
>>>
>>>Chris Cahill, P.E.
>>>Fire Protection Engineer
>>>Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
>>>
>>>763-658-4483
>>>763-658-4921 fax
>>>
>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Mail: P.O. Box 69
>>>         Waverly, MN 55390
>>>
>>>Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
>>>               Waverly, MN 55390
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:14 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Walk-in cooler
>>>
>>>Generally the industry practice (from what I know) is to provide
> sprinklers
>>>in walk-in coolers and freezers. The cooler I am looking at is a beer
>> cooler
>>>approx. 30 feet long, 10 feet deep and 7 feet high. It is full with
>> shelves,
>>>and no one could "walk-in". Would it have to be sprinklered? Anyone has
>> come
>>>across a similar situation or have any opinions?
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
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