I've attended AFSA, NFSA, NFPA and IFSA conventions/conferences. No regrets
at all on ANY of the $ investment made.

Was bidding a $5.5m unusual project, outside #13. Heard same building
erected in UK couple years earlier. Went to IFSA in Copenhagen. 3 weeks
later I had AutoCAD files of the original building installation. If they
built the original building, and if we got permission to use Section 1.4
Equivency for the criteria applied, we literally could have changed metric
to imperial and gone to fab. What's that worth? PRICELESS. 

I've done projects with people we've met at conventions, have some in the
works now, and have made more than all our conventions cost us in total. 

Some people don't read the Forum, bid street work to the same GCs, and never
differentiate themselves from the other non-Association members down the
street chasing the same cheap jobs. They save money by not taking time to
read the stuff here or ask questions, they save money not going to seminars,
they save money installing all steel pipe and not having insurance coverage
for CPVC. In short, they maintain the status quo and wonder why things never
get better for them.

I'm excited about diving into the Best Practices Paul is assembling and
applying them to improve our operations and lessen our risk. Yea, it might
cost us a few bucks. But a lawsuit averted, a lesson learned applied, and
learning from the mistakes of others- PRICELESS.

The seminars at AFSA are great, learned a lot, and discovered what turned
into Quell by attending James' CMSA Seminar and it applied to a $2m job we
ended up with and made some $ on. But I have always learned MORE in the
corridors from other attendees, and hope I've returned the favor by helping
others. You can't get that web-based and I have met literally dozens of the
great people in this industry by attending in real life.

BTW, if you're a contractor and you don't use air mile cards to charge your
material, you're missing a free RT ticket to convention. Our R/T to IFSA in
Copenhagen would have been $17,000 for British Airways First Class- and
worth it- but 360,000 miles and under $900 for two made it a "no-brainer",
cheaper than coach.

The sooner you think outside the box and learn from others, the sooner you
find yourself competing on other than a level playing field. 

It's a long weekend in a nice city with a lot of great people talking about
sprinklers. 

Glc
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Earthquake Bracing

$318 Round trip on delta or check out Southwest for $99 one way.
When it's important to us we all find a way. My air tickets form here will
cost more.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russell
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Earthquake Bracing

Thanks Thom. Being that I'm hugging the East coast makes it a tad out of my
monetary reach.

Russell Rewis
Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc.
107C Hemlock Street
Valdosta, Georgia 31601
229-244-8130
[email protected]



<AFSA San Diego Oct. 2009, has classes for Seismic by Ken Wagner, worth the
trip.>

Thom McMahon, SET

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