Two main points.  First, the 5 yr inspection is performed on two and  
ONLY two points (one CM and one BL).  Second, one is not expected to  
knock a hole in a hard ceiling in order to inspect an item.  There are  
plenty of rejected proposals in the past ROP/ROC's that attempted to  
require checking above such ceilings.  The best indication though is  
the recent ROP where a proposal was accepted to not require said 5 yr  
inspection when piping is inaccessible nor for 13R CPVC where flushing  
connections are not required.  Another proposal also excluded all CPVC  
system from the inspection.

The ROP is now available.  Comment closing date is 9/4/09

Roland

On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jim Johnston wrote:

> Todd,
> I am not aware of any either.  This brings up a good question  
> though.  The
> AHJ's in our area are hitting NFPA 25 5-year inspections pretty hard
> specifically obstruction investigations, this kinda poses a problem  
> when the
> pipe is above a hard lid ceiling, mostly were I see this is in older  
> nursing
> homes.  For present and future projects since AHJ's are looking at  
> this I
> would think they would require the access panels when hard lid  
> ceilings
> exist throughout a facility?  Any of the AHJ's on the forum have any  
> ideas?
>
> Jim Johnston, P.E.

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