>From legal AHJ perspective you must approve. 

What did your spec's say?  If nothing you have to approve.  Otherwise
enforce the specs. 

If your density is 0.15 it might be industrial but not real scary at least
in that area. And remember for not scary things there is some appropriate
over design in what we normally do.  QR heads even some more over design as
compared to SR.  For the most part (but not all) there is some appropriate
over design in H-W.  Want to see the effects, do a D-W with the equivalent
of a 95 c-factor and about 1000 sq.ft. 

On the other side is it a straight line approval drawing or did they have
extras for field conditions?  Might be negative with a few elbows added in
the field.  Are you sure they have the right elevation?  Don't know how many
times I saw cheating when they needed a pound or two (to get over the
mystical 5).  Right pipe type in the field as calc'ed?  Another area for
mistakes, saw lotsa sched 7 for calc and sched 10 or 40 for the spec
compliance.  Oh and if he's that on the mark make sure you are in the RA.
Move over a bit with 5.6 heads and it might be a different story with
overflow in the lines. 

If every thing is correct I'd approve.   

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
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        Waverly, MN 55390
 
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:11 PM
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Subject: Calcs-How much margin

I've got a calc I'm reviewing, after all said and done, 3.63 psi margin
between demand and available.  Designer used 4.2K heads to get the flow
exactly to the decimal of the required flow.  This is an industrial type
project.  With a .15 gpm/sf density at 92 sf per head, the flow would be
13.8 gpm and he's dead on the money.  The concern would be that over the
years if there was any change in the water supply or decay of the piping,
that the operation of half the design area would be questionable.  

Would you approve or reject this design?  Is this cutting it just a bit
close?

 


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 

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