Here's what NFPA 22 & 16 Says, 

NFPA 22, 2008
7.7.1* General. Pressure tanks shall be constructed in accordance
with the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, “Rules for
the Construction of Unfired Pressure Vessels,” Section VIII,
Division 1, Unfired Pressure Vessels.
7.2.7 Safety Appliances.
7.2.7.1 A brass relief valve not less than 3⁄4 in. (19.1 mm) in
size that is set to operate at a pressure that is 10 percent in
excess of the normal tank pressure shall be placed in the air
supply pipe between the check valve and the air compressor.
7.2.7.2 There also shall be a brass relief valve not less than
11⁄2 in. (38.1 mm) in size at the filling pump that is set to 
relieve pressures that are 10 percent in excess of the pressure
at the pump when the tank is under normal working pressure.
7.2.7.3 No safety appliances shall be installed between the
tank and other valves.
Obviously a bladder tank has no "Air supply pipe" and bladder tanks don't have 
"filling pumps" usually
So I guess whatever part of ASME applied is where the requirement would come 
from.


NFPA 16
5.7.4 Pressure-Type Storage Tanks.
5.7.4.1* Pressure-proportioning tanks shall have means for
filling, for gauging the level of foam concentrates, and for
drainage, cleaning, and inspection of interior surfaces and of
the concentrate-holding bladder or diaphragm, if provided.
5.7.4.2 These tanks shall be stamped to be identified as meeting
the requirements of ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code,
Section VIII, Division 1.(Vikings Foam bladder tanks are 1.3X the rated 
pressure)

(I believe that this will push you back 
into the relief valve, same as for 22)

Most States have their "Boiler" Inspectors inspect pressure vessels because 
they are the most familiar with the ASME Boiler & pressure vessel code.

Another one of those "install to ASME" without enough guidance or list of any 
exclusions.




Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


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Subject: foam-water bladder tank pressure safety valve

Does a State Boiler inspector have any jurisdiction over a foam-water bladder 
tank?

Question has come to surface concerning the requirement for a pressure safety 
valve on the tank, when it's required (which apparently is always according to 
the inspector it must be ASME labeled.)

Site residual pressure is 130 psi, static is 160psi , system is fed by diesel 
fire pumps, private loop.  Pumps have PRV's on them.  

Is this guy out of his element?  Anyone actually ever completed and submitted 
pressure relief valve calculations with a submittal?

This is the first time I've ever had any inspector question this issue.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 

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