Thanks Jim,

I've had to deal with some pretty bizarre stuff, but haven't run across this 
one before.  What's described in 7.4.2 is pretty much what they have.  The PE 
left off the check valves and some other stuff.

But 7.4.2 pretty much describes the situation.

They have (3) pairs arranged like this in the pit for a total of (6) valves.



Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Johnston
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: sand strainer?

Was this one those that are shown in NFPA 13 - Parallel Combined systems?  I 
could never figure why one would use these?  Craig, I know you pretty on the 
ball with things but just in case look at 13- 2002 edition fig. 7.4.2.2?

Jim Johnston, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Inland Fire Protection, Inc
1100 Ahtanum Road
Yakima, WA 98903
Phone 509-248-4471
Fax 509-248-1180
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: sand strainer?

Anyone ever see something like this before?

A single 10 run-in rises up and with a "Y" connection serves (2) 6"
Preaction valves, above the (2) P.A. valves the 6" lines come back together to 
a single 10" line out to some sort of preaction system somewhere.  This was the 
engineer's design, done in 1977.

Design criteria is this:  "Hazard area: 0.30 gpm/sq. ft, max. head spacing of 
90 sq. ft. 17/32" orifice heads."  That's all there is.

Any insight or just plain insanity?  Was there any restriction on size of P.A. 
systems in '77?

This one ought to be fun.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 

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