Hello Ron,

link http://www.orival.com

Friday, February 5, 2010, 9:02:08 AM, you wrote:

> I thought it was closer to 4AM but I might have lost track of the time.

> Orival www.orval.com makes what you need. We installed the filter (model
> OR-03-PS) in cooling line. The thing cost about $8k but is much cheaper
> than replacing the engine. We had the water examined at a test laboratory
> to determine the size of the particles so we would know how the size
> screen needed. In our case we had to filter down to 10 microns. Obviously
> it is not UL Listed but such is life.

> They come in larger sizes and can handle up to 10,000 gpm but the cost
> is probably prohibitive for an 8" or 10" size so you might have to live with 
> the valves dripping.

> Good luck,

> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: sand strainer?

> Would this be the time to plug CONVENTION and the value of 3AM refreshments
> and open discussion of how to attack various types of projects?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phelps, Mark
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: sand strainer?

> Hi George,
> We have experienced the same problem out here in the wild wild (and very
> sandy) west. We found a filtering system that has relatively low back
> pressure and is automatic (self cleaning) for around 8 grand. I believe is
> was a three inch. Ron was going to look up the brand and contact information
> for you in the morning. It has been in service for about 10 months and we
> have not experienced any heating issues. 
> Mark at Aero
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of George
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: sand strainer?


> ASCOA paid $22k just expediting an order of em once, they must be Bentleys:)

> I'll check them and the source filtering.

> It is boost to "village" supply.

> TANKS!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: sand strainer?

> George,

> If you haven't already, try Hellan strainers 
> http://www.hellanstrainer.com/.

> I've used them before, not with sand straining, but the unique design may 
> be just what you're looking for. They claim they can filter out sand. 
> Hellan is the Cadillac so the strainer could be pricey.

> Regards,

> James L.(Jim) Roberts, PE/SET
> Fluor Corporation
> 100 Fluor Daniel Drive
> Greenville, SC 29607
> 864.281.5149






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> Ok, let me re-phrase- 

> Anyone know how to filter sand out of a supply?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:29 PM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: RE: sand strainer?

> Maybe a diesel generator powering an electric pump? Or perhaps a small
> high-quality cooling water source?

> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
> Sales Engineer 
> Alliance Fire Protection 
> *Licensed in KS & MO 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George 
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: sand strainer?

> We've got a problem child project where sand in the water supply clogs up
> the cooling jacket on the diesel, and sand blasts the rubbers in valves so
> they drip.

> Small private water purveyor (the developer of the industrial park is the
> owner) supplies our diesel which then feeds the systems, all interior 
> piping
> downstream of pump. Project located several miles from the ocean, a couple
> miles from the Bay.

> I can't imagine a strainer with perfs small enough to grab grains of sand
> and not have atrocious friction loss. I can't find cheesecloth to wrap
> around the strainer basket that's UL-Listed in a pump suction application.

> While I haven't encountered this before, it likely isn't the first time 
> the
> problem has been encountered. Any one know a remedy other than a tank 
> (with
> settling basin?) and higher pressure 2,500 GPM pump to make up for the 
> loss
> of city residual pressure?

> George Church
> Rowe Sprinkler


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 Charles Thurston                            mailto:[email protected]
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