Perhaps this is semantics.  Or perhaps I admittedly know very little about
UG because we sprinkler guys don't do this in this neck of the woods.  You
said

"So unless you are connecting to a pipe, fitting or joint type that can come
apart under increased pressure, lack of compaction or some type of movement,
you don't need thrust blocks." 

I thought thrust blocks (or restrained joints) were to deal with the force
generated by the moving mass of water changing direction at a fitting. Not
really a pressure thing.  Footings (?) would be to deal with soil compaction
or support issues?  

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
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        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Grooved Underground, Thrust Blocks Required?

The question of would thrust blocks be required is almost self answering. 
Why do we use thrust blocks? To prevent pipe movement.
Why do we want to prevent pipe movement? So the pipe joints don't come
apart.
Do Groove joints come apart by increased pressure or lack of compaction of
soils? No.
So unless you are connecting to a pipe, fitting or joint type that can come
apart under increased pressure, lack of compaction or some type of movement,
you don't need thrust blocks.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Grooved Underground, Thrust Blocks Required?

No, this is a minor amount of pipe, connecting one part of a
system to another. I'm sure that this has been done by most everyone here
at one time or another. My question was "Would thrust blocks be required"?




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