That's all the type of lingo that looks like code type documentspeak that easily translates into one's mind as, "Who is a qualified guy?" "Why a licensed electrician would be considered a qualified guy (by statute, not necessarily competence)," and then that becomes, "Must be a licensed electrician," after it's bandied about a bit. Without books I was guessing that there was some requirement for qualified, knowledgeable, etc., with examples including but not limited to licensed electrician or the like that had been misread as definitive ruling. The other thought I had was that in some states you have to prove trade competence to get a specialty contractor's license and in others you don't but you need at least a certified administrator, RME, what have you as to title with trade knowledge. This reinforces John's comments in that no matter where you are the contractor has to be licensed or have certified/licensed staff and the terms get muddy and then become mental synonyms.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:24 AM, John Drucker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Perhaps the assumption stems from the following language in NFPA-20, > albeit less the "licensed" part; > > 1999 - 11-2.1 All electric wiring to the fire pump motor(s), including > control (multiple pumps) interwiring, emergency power supply, and jockey > pump, shall be completed and checked by the electrical contractor prior > to the initial startup and acceptance > test. > > 2003 - 14.2.3 All electric wiring to the fire pump motor(s), including > control (multiple pumps) interwiring, normal power supply, alternate > power supply where provided, and jockey pump, shall be completed and > checked by the electrical contractor prior to the initial startup and > acceptance test. > > 2007 - 14.2.3 All electric wiring to the fire pump motor(s), including > control (multiple pumps) interwiring, normal power supply, alternate > power supply where provided, and jockey pump, shall be completed and > checked by the electrical contractor prior to the initial startup and > acceptance test. > > 2010 - 14.2.3 Pump Room Electrical Wiring. All electric wiring to the > fire pump motor(s), including control (multiple pumps) > interwiring,normal power supply, alternate power supply where provided, > and jockey pump, shall be completed and checked by the electrical > contractor prior to the initial startup and acceptance test. > > Additionally, 2002 NFPA-20 "Form for Inspection, Testing and Maintenance > of Fire Pumps" does include the following language, albeit it's a sample > form located in the annex; Part 1 Owners Section: "Note to owner: > Periodic tests of transfer switches and emergency generators are to be > performed in accordance with NFPA 110 by a qualified electrical > contractor." > > But my bet its rooted in this; 2008 NFPA-25; 4.9* Electrical Safety. > Legally required precautions shall be taken when testing or maintaining > electric controllers for > motor-driven fire pumps." > > John Drucker Jr CET > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector > Borough of Red Bank, NJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: NFPA 25 QUALIFICATIONS FOR WORKING ON FIRE PUMP > > I have never heard this even suggested at the NFPA 25 meetings. Since > the text in 25 does not even suggest it, I would put it down as an > over-zealous editor in the Handbook. I will pursue clarification of > this with NFPA for the next edition of the Handbook (which we just > finished working on). > > Roland > > On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:57 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> NFPA 25-8.3.3.6 Handbook commentary states that a licensed electrician > >> should perform work near fire pumps. >> Is the Committee trying to establish that only licensed electricians >> should perform work on or near controllers, or that an electrician >> should always be present? >> Can someone please clarify what the commentary is implying or stating? >> >> Forest Wilson >> Cherokee Fire >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: > This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied > upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above > and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or > entities not named above. 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