I'm sure they might sometimes try to put two hoses on a single clapper body, 
but the main asset of that configuration is the option of using one or the 
other inlet in case the attachment angle is better, or more convenient or one 
of the inlets is obstructed, broken, etc.    Let's all keep in mind that the 
"requirement" that an inlet be provided for every 250 GPM of demand doesn't 
exist in the standards - it's just an old "rump rule".   A helluva lot more 
water than 250 GPM can be pumped into a 2 1/2" outlet, that's for sure; the 
newer mains here in SoCal often flow 1,500 GPM OUT of a single 2 1/2" hydrant 
port.   

With higher demand sprinkler systems and for multiple standpipes, it's 
certainly a good practice to provide 4-way and even 6=way inlet manifolds, 
where multiple hoses and much higher flow rates would definitely be of value.   
But if the FD is trying to pump more than 500 GPM into a light or ordinary 
hazard system with a single-clapper 2-way FDC, chances are that the fire has 
overpowered the system and they should be pulling back to watch the water 
circus.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Law, Kevin W
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FDC

Oh thanks, George.......I suppose you wouldn't have to have a second check in 
the system upstream but it would make it difficult to add a second hose to the 
FDC if you have already attached a single and found it wasn't enough.....I 
can't talk for the fire fighters, do they normally put two hoses on a double 
FDC at the start?  Help anyone???????

Anybody 


Kevin Law, PE
Bechtel National, Inc.
Waste Treatment Project
Fire Protection Engineering
Work  (509) 371-3280
Cell    (509) 531-5715


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FDC

Perfect example of contractor vrs PE :)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Law, Kevin W
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FDC

Poor design?  Who made it? 


Kevin Law, PE
Bechtel National, Inc.
Waste Treatment Project
Fire Protection Engineering
Work  (509) 371-3280
Cell    (509) 531-5715


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Hicks
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:24 AM
To: sprinkler board
Subject: FDC

We have a 90° Siamese double clapper FDC rising vertically from the ground.
The double clapper is hinged at the top.   Is there a reason for the double
clapper instead of the more common single swinging clapper?  

Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc 
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