See collective intelligence does work...on to my other topic of last week
and design vs EOR commands, received a very nice letter and pamphlet from
nspe.org/ejcdc with numerous contract document legalese, as far as I am
concerned this forum, afsa and nfsa answer my questions and feed my
sprinkler quest...
tom poisal, cet, nfpa

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Ron Greenman <[email protected]>wrote:

> War stories now. Changing WW II heads at the logistics center at Fort
> Lewis. Quarter mile long buildings used for everything from parachute
> rigging (big tall cupola and long, long tables in that one), to
> storing about forty 90mm mountain howitzers, to complete restorations
> of Abrams tanks. While in the small arms repair portion of one we
> found a hatch that led to a tunnel that led to an underground shooting
> range (presumably for testing said repaired weapons) that the guys
> thee didn't know about. They were happy with our discovery. I think
> not necessarily for testing purposes but more for
> recreation--underground small arms range and hide-out tiki lounge
> would be my guess, or at least my vote if I were one of them. Oh, and
> by the way, the UG was sprinklered, and I'd like to say to OH III to
> keep it within the original topic, but, alas, I don't really know.
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:09 AM, tom poisal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Funny years ago, I was site surveying, remember that..some guy I talked
> to
> > said we don't do that anymore with cad capabilities..bet his free lance
> > design service is tanking but I digress...I came across the weirdest
> thing,
> > building wasn't supposedly sprinklered, navy yard in DC but I found
> > sprinkler heads in a computer room, complete with "police" lites rotating
> > and 1984 sounds "non-classified personnel" ....popped a couple of tiles
> and
> > connected to the sprinkler heads were what looked fire extinguishers.
> >   And then there's the shooting range I found in an attic...figure that
> > classification, wood attic unoccupied except the navy guys whom rigged
> the
> > sand bags, steel sheets and target pulley???   actually they convinced me
> to
> > look the other way when designating it on the plans, but I did however
> > install staggered horz sidewalls 8' o. c. (was only 16 feet wide)...and
> that
> > was when ord gp lll was in play....enough
> >
> > Tom Poisal, SET
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Roland Huggins
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >>  By saying it was ONLY 19 years ago, it doesn't sound like something
> >> coming from someone that is Young.   I just wish that I could qualify
> >> for the Wise Old timer moniker.  Guess I'll settle for Cantankerous,
> >> old timer or maybe just old.
> >>
> >> Roland
> >>
> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Ben Young wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well if it makes you guys feel any better, they still show the old
> >> > curves in
> >> > chapter 11 of the 13 handbook.  Besides, it was only 1991 when they
> >> > changed
> >> > them!
> >> >
> >> > Benjamin Young
> >>
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