Tom, feel free to contact me if you want.
At 02:39 PM 5/15/2010, you wrote: >Well I'm back. They didn't built it the way they drew it (so what else is >new?). >The permit said residential 2 family with retail. Never seen this before. >Todd, I might have to poke your brain some on this, off forum. >2 1000SF condos upstairs with separate interior and exterior stairs down. >5' covered farmers porch on three sides, exterior stairs empty in at each >end. They did say 2 hours vertically between units and 3 hours on the >retail ceiling (they state 2 hours with a head equals three on the field set >of plans). Ton's of combustible spaces in the condos with three roof lines >and cathedral ceilings. Wind bracing like I've never seen before. This is >going to be a challenge because they want everything concealed (all >engineered lumber), the lofts over the bedrooms, baths and closets are open >to the living/kitchen spaces, tons of dormers with ceilings, etc. I still >don't know why it even has to be sprinklered but it's marked on the field >set so something must have been traded is all I can tell. Time to study. >td > > >I doubt if you can claim that the upstairs is 13D. Unless you have >the appropriate fire separation, the whole building would need to be >treated as 13. I would look at it as 13 Residential. > >The test that I and a few others use id that if the areas outside the >dwelling units are for use only by the tenants or are incidental to >the residential occupancy, then you can use 13R/13D. Otherwise, it is >mixed use and needs to be protected per 13. It sounds like you have >the latter. > >Remember, the permit and the hazard are mutually exclusive. > >Enjoy the Cape > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
