1. Move the wall, yes many times when pointed out the GC or owner moves.  Or
cut the new head in and move existing as necessary.  Usually it's 1 new and
move 2.  But in small rooms it becomes challenging if it's only 4 or five
heads wide.  Reality is it probably doesn't make a difference.  If the fire
starts under the mis-spaced head it probably goes out.  If not under the
mis-spaced it probably goes out with the regular coverage.  FM is now
allowing/requiring 4' OC under obstructions based on that thinking. 

2.  I don't see why the ESFR above can't stay.  Your description leads me to
believe sprinkler above are not even required.  You say no EXPOSED
combustibles (with taking care of the almost).  And even so the ESFR is a
fast response head, just like QR.  There are only two types of response
times FR and SR.  Or RTI <50 or those >80.  I know ESFR in non-storage is a
debate and in THIS case I'd be OK with leaving.  

3.  Can't say I've seen ESFR in a ceiling either.  Just don't semi-recess
is, I think, the only issue.     

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralphy
Henderson
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: ESFR Questions

Hi All,

I wanted to run a few questions past the forum here on ESFR's.

1.) I have a situation where spacing is at 10x10 but a new wall is making an
existing sprinkler 5'-10" off the wall which means I will have to add a
sprinkler between the existing ESFR and the wall BUT code says ESFR's can't
be any closer than 8 feet. Any guidance on this?

2.) I have a mostly noncombustible interstitial space between a new grid
ceiling and the roof deck. By mostly I mean steel bar joists throughout but
with a wood roof deck which is almost completely covered by noncombustible
insulation. I figured the existing sprinklers above the grid ceiling will
remain however they are ESFR. Can an ESFR remain as protection of the
interstitial space? Below the grid ceiling is storage occupancy requiring
it's own ESFR's. My gut is telling me NO since wouldn't the interstitial
space be light hazard therefore requiring quick response sprinklers?

3.) All the ESFR systems I've done in the past were in warehouses without
ceilings with everything open to the structure above. In this new case there
is a grid ceiling going in some of this warehouse with storage below. I
didn't see anything in the code prohibiting ESFR's in lay in ceiling
situations but it seems kind of out of place - maybe it's just because I've
never seen it before but I wanted to verify here.

Thanks in advance to all who answer!





      
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